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What ever happened to climate change in Australia? : Comments

By David Leigh, published 16/1/2014

Now, as we find ourselves 6-months into Abbott's Australia, there is little or no discussion.

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Warmair

try NASA, IPCC, logic and simple arithmetic.
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 20 January 2014 5:24:22 PM
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http://climate.nasa.gov/news/986 This is the website data to which you refer imajulianutter

September 23, 2013

By Maria-José Viñas
 NASA's Earth Science News Team

“After an unusually cold summer in the northernmost latitudes, Arctic sea ice appears to have reached its annual minimum summer extent for 2013 on Sept. 13, the NASA-supported National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) at the University of Colorado in Boulder has reported. Analysis of satellite data by NSIDC and NASA showed that the sea ice extent shrunk to 1.97 million square miles (5.10 million square kilometers).”
“This year's sea ice extent is substantially higher than last year's record low minimum. On Sept.16, 2012, Arctic sea ice reached its smallest extent ever recorded by satellites at 1.32 million square miles (3.41 million square kilometers). That is about half the size of the average minimum extent from 1981 to 2010.”

I read that as the 6th lowest ice level on record. It is up on last years record low yes, but it is not a trend.

Take a look at the graph on this link: http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus and show me a warming trend.

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGI_AR5_SPM_brochure.pdf

This is the IPCC summary for policy makers - Download it in pdf form and have a good read.

“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, sea level has risen, and the concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased“

“Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any preceding decade since 1850 (see Figure SPM.1). In the Northern Hemisphere, 1983–2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years”

“Over the last two decades, the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have been losing mass, glaciers have continued to shrink almost worldwide, and Arctic sea ice and Northern Hemisphere spring snow cover have continued to decrease in extent“

And I never use abuse because it has no value in sensible argument.
Posted by David Leigh, Monday, 20 January 2014 7:21:02 PM
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Dear David Leigh,

It should be noted that the Antarctic sea ice is increasing rather than decreasing. However the over all mass of the Antarctic ice sheet is decreasing with higher ice velocities.

It presents a fascinating picture of the dynamics involved. Unfortunately it can be a little confusing for some who prefer their answers in black and white. This should never be prevent us from presenting the whole picture though.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 20 January 2014 10:15:35 PM
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Yes, it really does present an interesting scenario, Steel, one not seen in living memory. Human opportunism is there to take advantage of the situation, just in case there are minerals that were previously unavailable. It is that same avaricious grab that fuels denial, i'm afraid and the supposed lack of real understanding in some.
Posted by David Leigh, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 8:29:16 AM
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David
That is not the official NASA site. You have quoted work from a bunch of warming terrorists who supplied non peer reviewed material to warming terrorists at NASA environmental section.
Try harder. You are looking for NASA satellite photos of the polar ice caps in August 2012 and August 2013.

Well done with that IPCC executive summary. Now read on till it discusses how Surface Temps in the last 10 yesrs haven't risen as those in a previous period. (Ie they have fallen) but that the overall trend of both periods is increasing but not as fast as their modelling.
That you will see is an astonishing admission.
Now check out DTR.

Hey Steelee witless
Are your pronouncements on Antarctic Ice made using your usual inaccuracy producingcmethodology?

LOL
Impossible to take a boy like you seriously now.
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 9:57:46 AM
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Hey boys check these

jpgp://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_full_report.pdf

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/screenhunter_170-jun-15-11-10.jpg

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/screenhunter_175-feb-12-10-35.jpg

thankyou cohenite
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 21 January 2014 9:31:21 PM
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