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What ever happened to climate change in Australia? : Comments
By David Leigh, published 16/1/2014Now, as we find ourselves 6-months into Abbott's Australia, there is little or no discussion.
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Posted by warmair, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 3:13:25 PM
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Talk about ad hominems - What about this lot:
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/what-ever-happened-to-climate-change-in.html Posted by Leo Dorfman, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 3:16:52 PM
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Thanks for the link Leo, I have just had my say on that little beauty. Firstly he has completely got me mixed up with another David Leigh, the former editor of the Guardian. He has opened himself up for defamation and I have asked for a retraction in the post... I wonder if they will publish that.
Posted by David Leigh, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 3:48:05 PM
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I think he has retracted the bit that you didn't like....
Posted by Leo Dorfman, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:22:55 PM
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Sorry, he has changed the URL:
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2014/01/what-ever-happened-to-climate-change-in_28.html Posted by Leo Dorfman, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:24:02 PM
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warmie I'm happy to engage you with the science, but you haven't got any!
Sorry couldn't resist. Actually a couple of recent papers/articles really prove my point about AGW science back-peddling. The first is by an AGW scientist I have ridiculed in the past for his hyperbole and gross alarmism; Steven Sherwood. Sherwood's latest paper deals with aerosols and the fact so little is known about their climatic impact that no predictions about AGW can be made with certainty: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/343/6169/379.short The second is a post by Professor Judith Curry who looks at the uncertainties surrounding the calculation of Ocean Heat Content [OHC]. http://judithcurry.com/2014/01/21/ocean-heat-content-uncertainties/ As you know the answer by AGW scientists, notably Trenberth, for the failure of temperature to rise for 17 years is because the heat is being stored in the bottom of the ocean. But as Curry shows the conclusions of the recent studies about OHC shows no increase in OHC since 2003 [the crucial date of the introduction of ARGO] by a majority of the studies, Levitus, Ishii and Smith with the studies by Dominques and Palmer having such wide uncertainty bands that their findings of an increase are problematic: http://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/presentation12.jpg A final point; a post by spectroscopic expert and astronomer, Dr Mike Sanicola confirms that backradiation, the mechanism of AGW, does not involve CO2 by is determined by H2O at Earth temperatures: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/ir-expert-speaks-out-after-40-years-of-silence-its-the-water-vapor-stupid-and-not-the-co2/ Bear in mind that outgoing longwave radiation, OLR, which AGW relies on, is also increasing. I really don't know how any sane person can support such a failed idea as AGW. Posted by cohenite, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 6:19:31 PM
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Cohenite
"I'm not; I have published papers and been studying the theory of AGW for a decade. Initially I thought it was right after seeing the Keeling curve of CO2 increase but since I can do the maths and have decades of legal training to recognise BS I have come to the conclusion that AGW is a failed theory."
Yes and I have been following the subject for 50 years and seen prediction after prediction confirmed. I also see no evidence that you actually understand the AGW theory. I followed your blog link re last year not being the hottest in Australia. All I found was a pretty graph but no links to the actual data used, oh and the fact that the Blogger has links to the heartland institute which immediately suggests a heavy political bias.
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Cohenite
"The costs of persisting with this failed theory have been great and the supporters of it, like you, I now regard as either fools or liars."
Now that reminds me of the old joke about lawyers and truth.
"Trust me I'm a Lawyer."
What your legal training seems to have taught you is to argue a case regardless of the evidence. I suppose when the evidence is so heavily weighted against your client that is about all you have left.
I actually suspect you are well aware that anthropogenic global warming is real, but are totally unable to admit you are wrong, which may explain why you are unable to complete a single post without at least one Ad Hominem attack on somebody.