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What ever happened to climate change in Australia? : Comments

By David Leigh, published 16/1/2014

Now, as we find ourselves 6-months into Abbott's Australia, there is little or no discussion.

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The selfishness of old men who know that they will not suffer the consequences of their greed and hubris.
And you wonder why the younger generations hate you!

I fear for you in your dotage.
When those same young people are tasked with caring for you.
Karma I suppose.
Posted by mikk, Sunday, 19 January 2014 7:49:37 AM
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What a very sad life you must live mkk.

Why do you wish ill on people?

Why are you agiest?

I am not old. My family and friends love me for me. They know I will never ever be dependent on anyone. They also remember what I have done for others snd for myself.

How sad you haven't encountered those fantastically positive attitudes and behaviours in your life.

I fell very sorry for you. I sincerely hope you fine some peace snd happiness and you obercome those ill feelings and spite.
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 19 January 2014 8:16:23 AM
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mikk & Imajulianutter,
you both have very valid points. All you need to learn now is how to weigh everything in context of fairness. You think you can do that ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 January 2014 9:33:09 AM
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Individual

Firstly that lesson should have been directed at the warming terrorists when they started with their abusive labelling as 'Denialists' of those who opposed their stupid warmist ideas.

If you did not lecture them then, then you have no right to lecture me now.

Secondly please point out where I have abused mkk prior to his name calling, ageism, ill will and spite. All I did was point out his sadness. What you need to realise is that his attitudes are now a result of his stupid warmist point of views being totally debunked by fair and reasoned argument, statistics and reality. He is simply lashing out because his view was wrong. Like an unAustralian sore loser.

Direct your comments at those who deserve them. It is not right nor fair to lump people, like me, who are fair and who have behaved reasonably in the face of terrible obrium and abuse, with those who have sunk to those disgraceful behaviours.

I thought I had been pretty gracious to people like mkk since all the indicators are making it apparent we are in a cooling period.

I could have said something much briefer like, get ......., but graciously I haven't.
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 19 January 2014 4:19:27 PM
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You blokes are amazing.

This reminds me of an analogy I heard in a TED talk. Hitler's armies are on the march and you want to know the number of stitches in the uniforms or the number of calories consumed by each soldier before you will believe the news.

Instead of Chamberlain declaring “Peace in our time!” imagining Hitler was going to stop with a bit of Czechoslovakia, it's you lot trumpeting 'Cooling in our time!'.

Rehctub wants to see the original invasion orders signed by Hilter himself. Without them there is no need to prepare for war.

runner thinks because the German Army's motto is 'God is with us' then they wouldn't attack fellow believers.

imajulianutter loudly proclaims there is no invasion because the army has stopped at the Rhine.

Hasbeen thinks that because of a report that a small runway had been lengthened for bombers turned out to be incorrect there will be no invasion.

Jbowyer thinks that because he got told over a quarter of a century ago by some army bloke the Germans would never invade again because they were given such a thumping last time that they couldn't possibly be planning to do it again. Plus he thinks the observers in the scout planes must be working for munitions companies.

Individual states that what some see as a pre-invasion build up of personnel at airports is because aviation is becoming more popular.

From now on you lot are going to be called the Munich Mob. A bunch of any excuse to do nothing' miscreants and Abbott is your Chamberlain.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 19 January 2014 4:25:23 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Trotting out the old 'Darwin temps have been fiddled with by warmists within the Bureau because they are corrupt and want a pay rise'.

Oh please.

It is called an homogeneity adjustment and there are many reasons for doing it. Station re-siting, instrument changes, missing records, etc. There are good scientific reasons for doing so.

Darwin before adjustment;

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=501941200000&dt=1&ds=13

Darwin with adjustment;

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=501941200000&dt=1&ds=14

It does indeed show an adjustment upward in later readings. Conspiracy theories would have it that it was to tweek the data to show a temperature rise that matched the global warming predictions.

There is a small problem with that. For instance if we look over to Broome we will see the opposite occurred.

Broome before adjustment;

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=501942030000&dt=1&ds=13

And Broome after the adjustment;

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=501942030000&dt=1&ds=14

Dang! So didn't the Broome boys get the message that the fix was on?

Or from the other side of the debate, had the Munich Mob got a mole in there adjusting the figures down because Gina and Clive had paid them off? Damn it! I want an inquiry now! Royal Commission at the very least!

So a bunch of climate sceptics pick out those that increased like Darwin and made a great song and dance about it conveniently ignoring those that dropped and you gobbled it up hook line and sinker.

So any conspiracy theory you want to tout out I have one to match. The truth is that the BOM guys are just doing their jobs the best they can. They are not being paid off by anyone. They are on public servant wages not coal miner's, and should not have to put up with being called corrupt by the likes of you lot of miscreants.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 19 January 2014 4:56:56 PM
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