There's no-one on this planet has ever lived long enough to live through a climate change to make a comparison although we have scientific evidence that such changes are occurring as part of the evolution of this planet. Obviously it can't do any good to our atmosphere to have so much emission but how did previous climate changes occur before man's industries ? Isn't it just a case of blabbering about something we have absolutely no control over ? Is it merely a case of simply a bunch of integrity devoid to get their grubby little fingers onto yet some more funding by alarming the crap out of everyone else ?
I don't deny that pollution does affect the atmosphere & I don't claim it does because I have no other evidence to compare it with. What I would like to have clearly explained so we can make a decision to either put more fundiing into the hands of the experts or stop all funding is to give us evidence that these experts can prevent a climate change & how.
Just ruining all industry & making the climate change bandwagon longer & faster without any explanation how it all can be solved is just throwing good money at bad people.

SteeleRedux, are you suggesting that an instrument for measuring weight, temperature etc, back in the 19th century was as accurate as one used today. Remembering of cause that One, celcius was not in use then, and Two, nor were grams, kilos or metric tons.

Now given that we are talking increases in temp of 1 Deg C, how accurate do you think the bench mark figures are.

Indi, I have to agree, as I have often asked what caused the last ice age, as it's wasn't man burning fossil fuels, was it!

Of cause none of the climate change supporters have bothered to answer my repeated question. No surprise to me by the way.

*what you're suggesting is that we impose a duty on incoming goods, which makes them as expensive, or more expensive than locally made.*
most of the "stuff" that is imported is junk that people could do without and if we had more manufacturing jobs, at least they would have wages to buy with.

*the likes of China, accepting such a huge hit to their economy *.
So we are to kow tow to China are we?

*So, do we increase wages even more to provide the necessary funds for people to buy locally made?*
The famous market forces will stabilize prices.

Other points are of no consequence

Haven't you noticed SteeleRedux, that the BOM, & the CSIRO keep correcting those records , & every single time, it is in a direction that exaggerated any recent increase in temperature, or actually creates an increase where one never existed.

This has been a very foolish policy, as in this computer age many other people have downloaded those records, before the riders of the gravy train thought to adulterate them.

People like you have thought they could push this barrow, collecting all that lovely cash, for ever.

Well it looks like the sun has a sense of humor, & is about to have a very big laugh at you all. All we need now is a government with the guts to give you the reward you deserve.

....most of the "stuff" that is imported is junk that people could do without and if we had more manufacturing jobs, at least they would have wages to buy with.

Yes Robert, but that 'junk' as you call it is what people can afford.

....The famous market forces will stabilize prices.

So how long will that take as i would suggest this would take years, if not decades and our manufacturing sector is in melt down now.

Besides, if and when anything is done, we will have run out of qualified personnel to train recruits.

I am afraid the damage is done and I seriously doubt there is any going back.

Dear butcher me ol salt, how have you been? I'm hoping you have been well and grown not only a little older but a little wiser as well.

Ah well the proof will be in the pudding.

Firstly you refer to me as a 'climate change supporter'. I am not such thing. I am of the firm belief, shared by many scientists, that human beings, while having been around for over 100,000 years in our current form, only progressed to civilisations capable of great science, music, art, thinking and literature because of the preceding 10,000 years of relatively stable climate. It is true that we will not have this 'blessed' period forever and that solar and planetary fluctuations will in likely cause to end but I for one have no wish to hurry the process.

You sir, on the other hand, want to see no action on reducing emissions and their impact on this 'blessed period' and that makes you most definitely a 'climate change supporter'.

Anyway to the instruments. The mercury bulb thermometer had been around for nearly 200 years before we were taking serious national observations in this country. Yes back in 1900 the measurements were taken in 10ths of a degree. Here are the records for Broome in Western Australia for that year. http://tinyurl.com/mpmqjn3

Dear Hasbeen,

Really? Is that all you have? Now you make the claim that the BOM have altered records to deceitfully show the country has been warming when it hasn't. What rot. Please furnish one shred of proof. Just because you want an excuse to ignore the evidence in front of your nose doesn't mean you get to slander the good folk at the Bureau with unsupported claptrap.

And you still haven't answered my question. Which set of data are you going to hang your hat on? Cohenite's or the work of thousands of Australians taking millions of on the ground measurements to a 10th of a degree for over a hundred years?