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How Australian Muslims are fitting into a newly emerging Australian identity : Comments
By Abe Ata, published 2/1/2014An estimated half-a-million, or more than 2% of Australia's population, are Muslim
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Posted by LEGO, Friday, 3 January 2014 5:28:35 AM
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Neither Islam or the Muslims who practice Islam are moderate:
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/the-moderate-muslim.html The sole purpose of Islam is to replace the secular democracy which gives freedoms to such groups as Muslims with sharia which does not tolerate the freedom of any other social and religious values. The immense irony is that Islam has been introduced into the West by progressive and left-wing elites who, as the case in Iran and other Islamic states has shown, will be the first up against the wall. This author is just the latest of a long line of spokespersons for the blight of Islam to use the freedoms of the West to tear down those freedoms. Posted by cohenite, Saturday, 4 January 2014 6:21:35 PM
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Runner asks Abe what would a Muslim majority Australia look like.
Don't bother asking Abe, he's too intent on the heavenly rewards he'll accrue if he delivers Oz to dar al-Islam --better to ask an Egyptian Copt or Iranian Bahai. Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 5 January 2014 6:35:58 AM
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There is an interesting underlay to the issue of Islam in Australia. We Australians perceive Islam to be a largely dysfunctional religion, why else would you have the drug gangs of Sydney run by lebanese muslims who are by now second generation. The Quran has a number of suras about the need to abstain from things like alcohol and drugs. True, the same could be said for any "christians by birth" involved in crime. However to get to the 2% the writer has to assume the "Brothers for life" and co, are obedient Muslims. Sadly is would appear that many of the observant are more interested in Jihad, than fitting into a newly emerging Australia Identity. The current Australian Identity has always rejected any extremism, and will continue to do so.
Posted by Jon R, Sunday, 5 January 2014 10:52:49 AM
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Jon R;
The problem is the Koran teaches them that there is no value in "western" government, laws or customs and they are incited to overcome them at the earliest opportunity. Typical belief is that is OK to lie to infidels if the lie is to advance the cause of Islam. This principle seems to be applied widely and is the reason many countries find treaties and agreements mean nothing. The basic problem is that Islam is not just a religion but a political movement as well. There is no such thing as separation of Mosque & State. It is a fascist movement in the vein of the Nazi Party. Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 5 January 2014 12:11:48 PM
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Yeah I am with Bazz. There appears to be built into JonR's well meaning post the implication that the Muslims who(m) western liberals would find unpalatable are the bad boys i.e. those who do not follow the true tenets of Islam --nothing could be further from the truth.
Islam only cultivates a nice and cuddly image where it's in a minority position (as currently, with most liberal democracies) and has high hopes of exploiting legal means of getting more of its adherents into the country--stacking the deck. Once it has the power it reverts to form. Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 5 January 2014 1:07:34 PM
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And how are Muslims fitting in to Australian society? Very badly. Now, let's see.
2% of people living in Australia are Muslims, and the NSW Police's biggest crime squad is the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad. Gee, that's a real contribution your people have made to Australia, Abe. Next comes the "moderate" Muslims organisations which have asked the federal government to exempt Muslims from voting because democracy is un Islamic. Yeah, that integrating and being Australian all right. And the same organisations are being prosecuted for committing financial fraud over government grants to a number of Islamic schools. Having your own leaders being caught ripping off Aussie taxpayers hardly makes Australians feel well disposed towards Muslims, Abe.
Then there is the "white flight" from Muslim ghettoes which means that inner city Sydney is becoming a giant Muslim Caliphate with very high rates of welfare dependency and,drug trafficking, car theft, car rebirthing, and endless drive by shootings. Add to that race riots on beaches caused by the offensive behaviour of young Muslim men, terrorism, demands by Muslims for blasphemy laws that are contrary to Australian freedom of speech, teachers refusing to teach in schools with high Muslim infestation, and Muslims marching around with placards saying "behead all who insult Islam."
You have a lot to be proud of there, Abe. If that is your idea of "a new Australian identity" then I can assure you that we Australians want no part of it.