"Argue not with fools, frauds, and fanatics. Seek instead better companions!"

I'm sorry, Joe. I don't have the time or the inclination to argue with you. There would be no point. Your mind, clearly, is set in concrete.

And besides, I have more important things to do.

Cheers.

Common sense 1, David 0 :)

What a shame that the Cavemen/Flat Earthers can't see that the ADIZ issue has two components.

One is the issue of counterclaims about who owns some god-forsaken Islands in the China Sea. This is a minor issue.

The other has to do with the continuance of U.S. attempts to turn every local world conflict into an issue which might allow it to drop nuclear bombs on one of its so-called enemies and show just how powerful it is (or how stupid it is depending on how you look at it).

Australians, typically, always look at the minor issues and concentrate on them. That's because America is seen to be close to Godliness, Jesus on the Cross, Superman, Mickey Mouse, John Wayne, Marylin Monroe and Batman. What it does and what it is really doing just doesn't matter to American-apologists. They don't even know what imperialism is!

How come most Australians can't see the truth about the U.S. Perhaps they are members of a Cargo Cult and they expect the U.S. to deliver bigtime!

More likely, perhaps, they are just dumb!

A nuclear war is coming despite the attempts of the mindless to hope otherwise. The evidence abounds and no amount of head burying in sand behaviour or distribution of red herrings will change it.

Shooting the messenger is the action of fools. If you can't or won't help to stop the approaching holocaust, GET OUT OF THE BlOODY WAY!

Hi again David,

Nice to see you're back.

I suppose if a country doesn't want to start a dispute, or raise tensions, then they don't. Simple as that.

Ummmm ...... but who has unilaterally declared an exclusion zone ? Who has raised the temperature of this situation ? Which country has simply backed up its allies, as required by its long-standing alliance commitments ?

So which country kicked this off ? Which country has been waving a big stick in the East China Sea over 'god-forsaken islands' in the East China Sea and the South China Sea, islands with two advantages to whoever controls them: potential oil and gas underneath them, AND the chance to unilaterally declare 200-mile exclusion zones around them, effectively giving the claimant control over vast portions of those seas ?

Is the US claiming either of these rights ? Or, let's see, is ............ China ? Against all their neighbors ? From Japan and South Korea down to Vietnam, Brunei and the Philippines ? Not a bad day's work in antagonising.

Take your time, David :)

Joe

Prior to WW2, there were intelligent people who were warning about the militarization of Germany and what it portended.

And at the same time, there were also a large group, shall we call them 'appeasers' who poured scorn on the messengers who gave warning about the imperial ambitions of Germany and its bonkers leader, Hitler.

Move the scenario forward a number of decades and, in 2013 we find we have another nation which has been growing its military, not for a few years, but since 1945.

At first, it was thought that the U.S. was one of us. But as decades slipped by, and the U.S spent more and more money on its military, the more intelligent among us began to be worried by the growth of the American War Machine and its apparent love of war.

At first, we rejected the thought that the U.S. might be up to some mischief. Then we wondered if the U.S. had decided to takeover where Germany had left off.

Those who can write and think, began to ask questions? Why did the U.S. need such a huge army? Why was it spending more money than it had? Why was it always initiating wars then, after occupation, why didn't it leave? Why did it need nearly a thousand military bases? Why was it attacking nations that has large oil reserves? Why was it using attack drones all over the world and killing thousands of civilians? Why did it refuse to be bound by the ICC or count casualties?

Continued:

The 'Appeasers in Germany' were replaced by the 'Stupids'! The 'Stupids' refuse to think about the criminal actions of the U.S. and what motivates them, and they continuously whitewash America no matter what it does?

Kill 20 - 30 million people, no problem. Torture people and render them, no problem! Keep people in cages without trial, so what's new? Use chemical and radio-active weapons, how fantastic! Finance despots and Crooked Kings and terrorist groups, no issue! Applaud while the U.S. tried to squeeze the life out of China and Russia which could lead to a nuclear war!

Yeah, the 'Stupids' are profoundly stupid! And they often have loud-mouths.

In Europe, the 'Appeasers' were shown to be fools. The 'Stupids' will suffer the same fate.

But it will be too late to punish them because our world will be uninhabitable!

Them's the breaks, I guess!

Thanks Stupids!