Yuyutsu,

<<One wrong doesn't cancel another>>

And I don't think anyone on this thread was suggesting otherwise. The point being made was that many of our opinion leaders are narrowly one-eyed.

SPQR,
All the critical (ie objective) articles I've read over the weekend concur on one point: there's a White Western Mandela and an African Mandela, the Western Liberal version has been literally Whitewashed, clad in cloth of gold and set upon a pedestal, he bears no resemblance to the man at all. The White Mandela is really just another artifact of a White supremacist/ White Paternalist world view, the noble savage, the restive tribesman, the archetypal African proletarian protege of Liberal Jews and Whites.

listening..to alex jones
the question..front..of mind..is

is joe-biddon..going..to/the fun-er'al?
where 144.000..ascend...into..'heaven''..on..a zion-mushroom pillar/of cloud..

ascending..on..?the cloud
then..joe bidon..gets..emergency*powers..[under marshal law]
not obama..

but imagine..joe bidon..instead of obama
re what alex is saying [re obama]..here*
http://rss.infowars.com/20131208_Sun_Alex.mp3

with one stroke..all the witness against satan=dead
marshal law..and joe biddon..under war powers act/under marshal law

with nukes..plus israel/nukes
armogeddon..expect..something..so..why the secret..with japan?[plan/b?].
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/06/national/secrets-bill-poised-for-passage/#.UqMf0yflfzO

Dear Jay,

"Liberal Jews and Whites"

Does this exception mean that while practically all Whites are liberal, only a few Jews are; or does it mean perhaps that Jews are not white?

Another question:

Aren't liberal people those who believe in freedom? In that case, wouldn't they be in the very front of the struggle to stop apartheid?

A noble savage, or a restive tribesman sounds so much better and superior to me than a decadent/spoiled and technologically-dependent urban busy paper-shuffler.

Mandela was flawed. There is no doubt about that. Gandhi, for example, allowed his wife (Kasturba) to die of bronchial pneumonia in 1942 because his 'faith in the almighty' prevented him from allowing her to take antibiotics that would probably have saved her life. He was not so faithful a few weeks later when his own life was on the line with a malarial infection. He took quinine to save his life. So much for principles.

The Bretton Woods organizations and the institutions set up after the second European civil war (WWII), and heralding a new world order, were set up by the victors for the victors and were 'international' in name only. It is therefore unsurprising that the Structural Adjustment and GEAR programs in South Africa further impoverished and isolated the already economically disenfranchised. That is precisely what those programs were designed for, as evidenced by their total failure in other countries. In an interesting twist, the IMF and World Bank are now resisting the same austerity and capital market-driven reforms (tried and tested on several countries in the so-called Third World) on a Europe-wide scale to help Europe exit its economic and financial crises.

Flawed though he may have been, Mandela was principled, pragmatic and remarkably foresighted. He saw what was possible for his country's future but was pragmatic enough to understand that he would have to cut a deal with the devil to bring his dream to fruition. Cutting a deal with international capital (no friend of the ordinary South African) was the only way open to him to avoid bloodshed and a crisis of governance in South Africa, in the typical sort of unequal deal handed to former African colonies at 'independence'. It is the fact that he was able to combine principle and foresight, with hard-nosed pragmatism that set him apart from the likes of Gandhi and King. He did not have his head in the clouds.

"Government-imposed discrimination against black South Africans was instigated by white labor unions associated with various Marxist and communist movements. It was a pervasive system of government regulation, regimentation and control."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/thomas-dilorenzo/south-african-apartheid/

Apartheid was just another form of national socialism - the opposite of free markets.

Notice how socialism always seems to be coming down on the side of monstrous, racist and anti-human regimes? Another example was Australia's White Australia Policy, driven by the unions and the Labor party.

Contrary to the socialists' opinions, the fact that socialism was behind apartheid, the White Australia Policy, Pol Pot, Mengistu, Saddam Hussein, Hilter, Stalin, Castro, Whitlam, Gillard and Rudd, is not some kind of strange coincidence.