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Antisemitism still alive in Australia : Comments

By Julie Nathan, published 2/12/2013

Jews in Australia, as elsewhere around the world, worship, study, and work, under the protection of high fences, armed guards, and other security apparatus.

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"I loathe the views of racists like David G," says Rhian.

Listing the many sins, atrocities, war crimes, cases of land stealing and tax withholding, the murder of Rachael Corrie (Google it) and the people on the Turkish Aid Boat, the head-shooting of Palestinian children, the use of phosphorous munitions, the starving and impoverishment of Palestinians by Israel, plus their constant humiliation and loss of their homes and farms because of Israel, etc, etc, are NOT MY VIEWS!

They are facts that anyone who is even moderately informed and intelligent would know.

Claiming that presenting facts makes me a racist is nonsensical and infantile.

I'm just a man who hates injustice and I will ALWAYS stand up for the underdogs!
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 12:21:17 PM
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David G
I do not call you a racist for your loathing of Israel, but for the way you project that loathing onto Jewish people in general.
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 12:34:06 PM
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"I do not call you a racist for your loathing of Israel, but for the way you project that loathing onto Jewish people in general," says Rhian in a grand rhetorical though infanticle flourish.

Please provide examples of where you think I have 'projected' my 'loathing' onto 'Jewish people in general'.

Note:

- I have never once made any statement that includes all Jews when detailing the multiple crimes of Israel.

- I have never once suggested or implied that I loathe Jewish people because the truth is that I don't loathe them. I do however have serious issues with the people who currently live and vote in Israel. Then so do a lot of Jews!

- All evidence I have provided refers to things done (atrocities, massacres, bombings, genocide, land stealing, wall building, etc) over decades to the Palestinians by their occupying military power, namely Israel.
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 2:07:10 PM
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David G

quoted from your post above:

"And you wonder why the world seems to be anti-Jew and anti-Israeli!
"No amount of Jewish lies hides Jewish evil.
"Change Jewish behaviour and you might be treated as decent people!"
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 2:30:21 PM
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Dear David,

<<I do however have serious issues with the people who currently live and vote in Israel.>>

I do hope that these serious issues include the Israeli Arabs who have the right, but don't bother to vote, thus allowing Netanyahu and his settlers to rule.

They comprise over 20% of Israel's citizens and the reason about half of them don't bother to vote is that they do not perceive themselves as Israelis, but of another nation (Palestinians).

The Palestinians of Eastern Jerusalem are entitled to vote for the Jerusalem council - but very few of them do. They have permanent-resident status and are also entitled to become Israeli citizens, yet they just choose not to do it. Why should they then complain when their council evicts them from their homes under various pretexts? Had they bothered to come and elect their own representatives, they could easily have had a majority in the council and prevent those evictions!

All nationalism is a disease just the same (yes, even including Australian).

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I do agree with Rhian:

You equate Jewish honest mistakes with lies;
Jewish ignorance with evil;
and Jewish affliction and illness with indecent behaviour.

Do others not suffer from the same?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 2:42:15 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

Perhaps the Palestinians perceive themselves differently
because they're always been treated differently by the
Israelis?

Taken from the web:

"Although Palestinian citizens of Israel are entitled to vote
and participate in Israeli political life and several
politicians are members of the Knesset (Israeli Parliament)
they do not receive the same treatment as the Jewish citizens
at the hands of the government."

"From the birth of ths state in 1948 until 1966 -
predominantly Palestinian areas were ruled through a military
government that enforced draconian restrictions affecting
all realms of life."

"Israel still applies 20 laws that privilege Jews over Arabs,
for example, the 1950 Law of Return which grants
automatic citizenship rights to Jews anywhere in the world
upon request, while denying the same right of Palestinians."

"The Basic Law of Human Dignity and Freedom ensure that Israel
is the state of the "Jewish" people not its citizens. The law
was passed in 1992 - to serve as a "Bill of Rights", as
Israel doesn't have a written Constitution."

"Israel's flag and other National symbols are Jewish not neutral
or National ones that represent all of the citizens of the
state."

Also, government resource are disproporionally directed to
Jews and not Arabs. Palestinian schools and their children's
education are extremely poorly funded, and the list goes on:

If people are treated differently, they behave differently.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 4:40:45 PM
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