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Antisemitism still alive in Australia : Comments
By Julie Nathan, published 2/12/2013Jews in Australia, as elsewhere around the world, worship, study, and work, under the protection of high fences, armed guards, and other security apparatus.
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Posted by wobbles, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 10:30:39 AM
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Dear Foxy,
While Israeli Arabs are wronged in several ways, it NEVER went as far as intimidation not to vote by Jews or by the Israeli authorities. Not a single case so far. I read the Haaretz paper which is strongly against the government's militant policies and if there was any such case they would be screaming to the heavens. Unlike in Australia, even Arab-Israeli prisoners, even those convicted of terrorism or espionage, are entitled to vote and the Israeli government makes sure they are given the opportunity to vote from prison. There are indeed some cases of intimidation against voting by fellow villagers, especially Muslim men who don't want to allow their women to leave the house in order to vote. Preventing someone from voting is a serious criminal offence in Israel and those caught doing so are punished severely. The most common reason cited for Arab-Israelis not voting is "we don't care, it's not our country". Another is that it would legitimise the state of Israel. I think these are poor excuses: if it ain't your country, why not MAKE it your country? If it ain't legitimate, why then not exercise a tiny effort once every 4 years to make it worthy of being legitimised? There are Arab parties to vote for, both communist and Muslim, that are openly against the Jewish state, but then, what to do about Muslim ideology that claims it illegitimate and irreconcilable for even one Jew to live in an area formerly conquered by Islam. Mind you, while not voting, Israeli Arabs are not shy of receiving Jewish social-security payments and generous support for their large families. Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 10:37:50 AM
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Wobbles and Yuyutsu,
Spot-on ! Thank you for some sense in this barren argument. Cheers, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 10:58:55 AM
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Loudmouth,
You've got me stumped:how can you compliment BOTH Wobbles and Yuyutsu? They're as different as chalk and cheese. Praising Yuyutsu I can understand, he makes some sound points --but Wobbles? ROFL As we have come to expect from Mr Wobble he just gives us his party's standard mindless cliches: "This nation was founded on racial hatred for the Chinese" "It's no different from the Cronulla riot" "it's not who they are, it's the things that they do as a nation" Then he garnishes it with a motherhood statement "Racial or religious profiling is an abhorrent act and nobody deserves to be treated that way" What Mr Wobbles doesn't say is he only every picks up on racism when it comes from the Israelis or "WASP" Ozzies, hence Cronulla was all about those dastardly rednecked Ozzies picking on innocent Muslims who juuuuuuuuuust wanted to enjoy the sea breeze--TYPICAL! Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 11:38:17 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,
Thank You for your opinions. Antony Loewenstein in his book, "My Israel Question," presents a somewhat different perspective to the one you're stating. His is a searching discussion in one of the most important debates of our times and well worth a read, if you haven't already read it. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:38:58 PM
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Unfortunately it's what we have always done and will probably continue to do for at least another generation. This nation was founded on racial hatred for the Chinese.
It's no different from the Cronulla riot (except for the widespread encouragement of a certain shock-jock) and should be equally condemned.
As for the constant criticism of Israel and Zionism generally, it's not who they are, it's the things that they do as a nation that creates and maintains that position.