Dear David,

<<I would need a frontal lobotomy to stifle my rational mind, to enable acceptance of your well-meant prescription.>>

It would be interesting to discuss on another thread what it takes to become religious, where I could explain why lobotomy is not required, but only the gradual creation of new neural pathways in order to evolve from being ego-focused into being divine-focused.

But for the purpose of this topic, all which matters is that the Jewish so-called 'religion' is not truly about God and turns its followers into nation-focused instead.

the qualities of god..are contained..within..the one word

good=god
nature..isnt survival/of fittest gown-up
its about the nurture..that sustains nature

see the most vile/beast..yet loves its own
[of course..there are acceptations..to any rule]
in time of drought..parents may eat..their own young
BUT generally..THE YOUNG..survive..ONLY..because of good nurture

thing..is there is way more love[good]
than..hate..hate..[in nature]..hates..then love returns

to say god isnt good..is opinion..not fact
[think..of it..as a constant base-condition..[default]

love alone..can live eternally
hate only lives..as long as the last hater

nature/nurture..are symbiotic..not opposing
just as good/god..same same

jesus saying see me/see my father
by their deeds..will we know their learning's

same same same
gods sure..good/sign..=life/love/logic/light

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6119&page=0

As Antony Loewenstein points out in his book,
"My Israel Question,"Conflating legitimate criticism of
Israel with antisemitism - calling critics of Israeli
policies antisemitic - is a strategy intended to stifle
criticism and dissent. Not every anti-Zionist is antisemitic;
to assert that they are makes it more difficult to
distinguish between real antisemitism and harsh but often
warranted criticism of Israel."

"Israel and Judaism are separate and should not automatically
be connected. Likewise, antisemitism is not anti-Zionism,
though the two can be connected and are sometimes conflated."

As Akiva Eldar wrote in Haaretz:

"It is much easier to claim the entire world is against us
than admit that the state of Israel, which rose as a refuge and
a source of pride for Jews ... has become a genuine source of
danger and a source of shameful embarrassment to Jews who
choose to live outside its border."

Well, well. It seems that there is nothing like publishing an article on antisemitsm to flush out the antisemites. The moderators of OLO need to do some serious self-reflection on how and why their website, and the political views it generally promotes, seem to spawn outpourings of raw-sewage antisemitism from posters like “David G” and “one under god”. OLO’s procedures for monitoring and moderating posts are also obviously in urgent need of improvement.

The postings here illustrate how the online media help to proliferate racism. It is not good enough for online publishers to remove racism only in response to complaints. They have a responsibility to be pro-active and check for, and weed out, grossly racist comments before, or within a short time after, they are posted, and not leave them up on their site for days at a time. If they had pride in their product they would not allow this to happen. It’s a reflection on them and their websites, a poor one, and not just on the authors of the racist posts.

The majority is always slow to see prejudice that is directed against a minority group such as gays, the disabled, indigenous people, or ethnic or religious communities. The majority are not affected personally by it. It is hard but necessary to understand how material that is being considered for publication will be perceived by members of the affected group. It is easy, but false, to simply assume that any claimed offence is merely feigned for political advantage.

Quintus

There is no team of moderators here to pounce on every unacceptable posting. If you complain about a post Graham Young will look into it; if not, it stands.

This site does have a very strong ethos of free speech and diversity, publishing a range of views including many on the fringes of mainstream thought and acceptability. Likewise, its posters are diverse and often opinionated. It’s one of the few sites that keeps censorship to the absolute minimum needed to comply with the law, and has from time to time come under attack from hate campaigns designed to prevent it from airing certain opinions. It has resisted these, to its great credit.

I loathe the views of racists like David G, but I think it’s far better to dispute them than silence them.

Quintus I think your views promoting censorship should be censored.

If Israel claims to be a western liberal democracy then of course it should be expected to maintain higher standards and behaviours than those that don't claim to hold western democratic ways.

That is the western liberal democratic way.