Martin, it's a pity you aren't a woman, because maybe then you would understand.
Why is it that it is mainly religious middle aged men who rant and rave about women having a choice whether to abort or not?

It should only be their business if they are the father.

It must really be galling to them that they can't control all women and their bodies...

As for the doctors who disagree with abortion, i hope they have this written up somewhere outside their surgery so women don't waste their time and money asking for their help?

@Suseonline, that gets us nowhere even if it were true. "Why is it that middle aged anti-religious feminist minority .. etc"

Whatever inspires us to contribute to our shared public life as Australians is interesting and I'm more than happy to talk about my loves but at present were focused on the argument for killing babies in the womb and the morality and legality of criminalising conscientious objections to this act.

Arguments don't have testicles.

runner not ignorance, law. Check it out sometime.

Dear Martin,

I'm afraid that I have to disagree with you on this one: <<Fact: you can’t murder>>

Most Australians can and do murder as a matter of routine.
The fact that the victims belong to other species doesn't change this gruesome fact.

Yet, the state with its laws is not the right body to enforce morality, including non-murder, because itself is immoral. Nevertheless, you need not worry about it because ultimately nobody can escape facing and reaping the results of their actions, even if no longer in their earthly body.

As for the 150 metres law, I agree that abortion-clinics should not be made a special case. Rather, while everyone should be able to criticise public bodies everywhere and at any time, people should not be allowed to assemble outside private premises for the purpose of harassing and disturbing the peace of the residents or their guests.

Dear Suse,

<<i hope they have this written up somewhere outside their surgery so women don't waste their time and money asking for their help?>>

This hope is reasonable and mutual. Neither do these doctors wish to waste their and their other patient's time on cases they are not willing to take. Similarly, many massage shops have a sign saying: "Strictly no sexual services" (just imagine the government denying them the freedom to practice massage due to their refusal to provide those 'other' services).

I also hope that atheist doctors will display a sign outside their surgery to the effect of: "We do our best to fix your body, but any damages to your soul or spirit are at your own risk and outside the scope of our responsibility".

Yuyitsu "I also hope that atheist doctors will display a sign outside their surgery to the effect of: "We do our best to fix your body, but any damages to your soul or spirit are at your own risk and outside the scope of our responsibility"."

What a strange statement!
Are you suggesting that only Doctors who believe in gods can hope to assist patients with problems other than physical disorders? What rubbish.

Are you suggesting that only atheist Doctors suggest or assist with abortions or euthanasia?
Sorry to burst your naive bubble...but they do.

No one is any less or any more 'moral' or 'good' if they believe in gods than anyone else.

Carz

law also says marriage between man and woman. Good that you agree.