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My dear prime minister : Comments

By James Arvanitakis, published 22/11/2013

I wanted to write to you a list of the concerns that much of the population share that I believe cross the political divide. These issues are beyond 'left and right'.

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James - your side lost. A majority of people voted against that luvvie claptrap. Get over it.
Posted by DavidL, Friday, 22 November 2013 8:45:42 AM
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James,
you're only an academic, what would you know about managing ? Our students are getting more dumb each semester & academics are trying to tell us how do do things ? Get real !
How about concentrating on real research like how to make our students & their teachers smarter ?
This Government has only just clocked up three months, all of which time was devoted to sort out the crap from your lot. if you want this Government to do better than the last one then stop interfering & let them get on with weeding the Public Service.
Posted by individual, Friday, 22 November 2013 9:46:15 AM
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Dear Professor Arvanitakis,

To begin with, I would like to congratulate you on being the 280th progressive article writer on OLO this year.

You mentioned that you wanted to air “ the concerns that much of the population share”. How did you determine that the “population” share these concerns-- was it just one of these progressive things where if you think it is a concern then everyone else ought to think so to?

You then go on to talk about “asylum seekers” . The first thing that struck me was your use of colourful and misleading descriptions:
1) “only...a trickle …”
2) “despite the hysteria …”
3)" repel 'boats' at all costs"

And the second thing was just how poorly informed you were about the issue —you say: “the vast majority are confirmed as genuine refugees”. This is a very old chestnut that has been debunked numerous times. The fact that the majority may be given the benefit of the doubt and rubber stamped “genuine” .-- often after a series of long publicly funded appeals --does not established their genuineness. I refer you to the findings of one Bob Carr former Minister of Immigration.

Then you say “push factors are a more significant issue than pull factors”—again, how did you determine that? And how does this tally with Tamils from Sri Lanka choosing to by-pass culturally compatible Tamil Nadu --only a stones throw across the water --to sail across treacherous seas to – what you progressives usually label --racist Australia?

TBC
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:18:22 AM
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You second issue is anthropogenic climate change -you say: “There is now no doubt that human induced climate change is a challenge for both future generations and us” And “ no doubt that a market mechanism is the most effective way to deal with the challenges”."No doubt" is pretty strong stuff, how are you so sure, when even the IPCC still allows for some measure of doubt?


And your fourth point, one which you might have covered in one line but shuffled around about with ten. Is a call for greater funding for tertiary level education. Now on this one I can agree with you.But the way I see it, it’s doesn’t need more or bigger taxes –so the LNP can keep their electoral promises. All that is required is a diversion of funding from the illegal immigration industry, and the we-owe-the-world AGW scam to our university sector.

Have another think about it.

Yours sincerely,

SPQR
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:29:30 AM
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the twisting of words by many of our academics and media is astounding. To call those with faith in gw religion progressive is really deceitful. Having wasted billions already it is really quite regressive to continue down that path. As for promoting on gender rather than ability we have just witnessed 5 years of destruction rather than progression. Calling these things progressive is equivalant to calling the Greens/Labour compassionate after thousands of deaths due to their 'progressive'policies.
Posted by runner, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:33:47 AM
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DEAR..TONY..your the first leader..i..havnt tried to contact
for..the last twenty years..and there is a good reason..for this

never before has the driver[your advisers]..been..more clear
but mate..your no good at poli-tricks..[loose the spin-guy..and what he advises you to..do

already they got at joe
that 9 billion bailout..you borrowed from..the fed..to give to the fed..is just one case in..point..FIRSTLY..thats only to bailout a broken system[any*money spent on bailing out the rich[by borrowing more from the rich

well..mate..thats ONLY BECAUSE OF URSURY*
you heard jesus was upset at the money changers,,[right]
well.mate..now you..know why

but..ursury..leads toinflation
[that has DEBASED THE QUEENS COIN..[the ONLY lawfull tender matey!

debasement..of HRH>>coin..is treason,,tony
high treason..[what the bankers did..was set up THE WORLD WAR
soits ADVISERS..could advise govts to fight war..by paper promise

WAR BONDS MATE..that were ASSURED..payable./.by govts
they even..had usury..on.top,,but cLEVER bankers..bought up the paper promises..AND DEMANDED>>THE PAYMENT>.instantly..[of GOLD..anD SILVER COIN]=

SOWW1 SAW THE loss OF OUR GOLD...plus the worlds feds
ww2..they got the silver..[and the crime of DEBASEMENT*]
thart saw evenour silver get STOLEN..in 1966

copper didnt get looyted[debased till the ni9neties
buyt mate your advisers wont even cash money[especially coin gone]
so opeople forget all about pounds WEIGHT..in..gold.silver etc..that are the ONLY*CONSTITUTED..LAWFUL..currency

further you..know that shareholders are mainly
other corporations..not pensioners directly....onlythe ADVISERS/middle men..that collude massive treason..GLOBALLY

we need govt to control the bankers..and advisewrs
knmjowable via their family trusts or gross wealth*

wanting to/do their USURY..[that links to inflation..and deflation..and stagflation etc..and thenthat final day..of high treason

the bail-in..and not even fiat paper

which is basically THEFT*

RESTORE THE TRADITIONAL..VALUE..back into..coin
govt pays only in coin*..only TO the living.[not lawful..corporate-[incorporeal]..'persons']

stop gifting 50 billion to investers
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15734

thats high treason as well
avoids meeting joes wifes 'advisers'..olmate

think
what would jesus do?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176496

ask..john's.. adviser to explain..it to..you.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:44:35 AM
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“the vast majority are confirmed as genuine refugees.”

No they are not. There are 3 stories used by illegal arrivals, all carefully scripted by supporters of illegals and people smugglers. And, our inept immigration officials are instructed to give the green light to lying, cheating queue-jumpers with money to dodge the UN process.

The ’10 myths’ article this author relies on is a myth in itself.

Of “both major parties”, one – the Labor party – actually encouraged illegals and people smugglers; that party in government certainly did not feel “the need to repel 'boats' at all costs” until the very end of its incompetent and ‘open borders’ regime.

“Push factors” is a phrase this self-admitted ‘progressive’ has copied from open-borders Labor politicians.

His “second issue” has been thoroughly disproved by the climate itself, and real scientists – whose views have been censored by the so-called progressive – have shown that ripping money of tax payers will make no difference to climate change on the occasions change does occur naturally.

WITH “a price on carbon or an industry policy, we will eventually flounder and be left behind”; yes, economically and growth-wise by countries who don’t bother with the mythical nonsense that higher prices for everything will have affect climate change.

Keeping the tax on carbon dioxide will be no solution to anything; it will merely continue the impoverishment of consumers and, eventually, the country.

Professor James Arvanitakis must have written this same open letter to the Rudd/Gillard governments, because they certainly used many of the pleas contained within it wreck Australia during their tenure.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:40:10 AM
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No wonder we are filling the bureaucracy with increasing numbers of totally useless graduates, when this is the kind of thinking inside our ivory towers. Why is it that these academics are so incapable of seeing where all their ideas would lead.

However even more worrying is the prospect of any return to a labor government. That they will draw their "policy advisors" from people like this bloke, with his rose coloured dreaming is dangerous. It is going to be hard enough to resurrect Oz after the last 2 disasters, a term or two of government guided by this sort of thinking, & our Oz will be well on it's way to becoming the Greece, [or the Lebanon] of the South Pacific.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 22 November 2013 11:56:44 AM
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The foot soilers of the rights war on reality are out in force today.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Friday, 22 November 2013 3:44:31 PM
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Good god I for one would love to have seen the begging letters this bloke wrote to Rudd Gillard and Rudd again.
Oh he did not write them. Oh for heavens sakes they weren't progressives either.

Just another blinkered leftie ranting on about how unjust people are when they are not as hypocritical as he is.
Posted by imajulianutter, Friday, 22 November 2013 4:35:28 PM
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"""
The foot soilers of the rights war on reality are out in force today.
"""

Hehehe!

He gave us a shoe ;~)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywIYQEHZLs
Posted by RawMustard, Friday, 22 November 2013 9:41:19 PM
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James Arvanitakis "For various reasons, the last few years have been extremely divisive within our community. The issues that divide us should be secondary to those that bring us together."

Then proceeds to list the most divisive issues of all.

"These issues are beyond 'left and right'"

Then insists the "progressive" view is the one to act upon.

There may be millions of gays in Australia, but do they *all* want to marry?
There may be a few thousand who do, not "millions".
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 22 November 2013 9:42:44 PM
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You are correct, Professor Avranitakis about the six items that are of concern to the majority of the population. You just forgot to mention that the majority oppose your position on all of them.

The majority do not accept that the people that you call "refugees" are genuine at all, and Abbott basically won this election on this issue. Even in your native Greece the Greeks are fed up of illegal immigrants.

People are becoming more sceptical about climate change primarily because of the holier than thou attitude of the minority who promote it, that the majority do not trust. You side has a credibility problem of your own making.

Perhaps you could direct your criticisms of gender equality towards your luvvie friends in the ABC who seem to be setting the standard for senior management male discrimination? All of the senior ABC management who get the big bucks are male.

The majority of people do not hold Tony Abbot responsible for the fact that too many aboriginal people adopt unhealthy lifestyles in remote areas far from medical coverage. Blaming whites for aboriginal dysfunction while ignoring aboriginal behaviour is a certain way to make the electorate angry and vote against any party that accepts this odd reasoning.

The majority of people do not agree with homosexual marriage. If you think I am wrong, then let's have a referendum on this issue. This is another reason why Labor lost.

Finally comes your pitch for self interest. You want more funds for universities but you are incapable of figuring out that importing people into this country who are crime prone and welfare dependent is one reason why there is no money form universities.

As a Greek you should be familiar with democracy, Professor Avrinitakis. Majority rules. Minority tails are not supposed to wag the dog.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:49:24 PM
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James, I know that your economic illiteracy prevents you from understanding why, but I always find it hard to distinguish between what you call progressives, and fascism.

Just out of curiosity, could you let us know how you distinguish what you believe in, from fascism? What about fascism do you not agree with? What is the difference between your view of the role of government, and fascists view of the role of government?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 23 November 2013 7:43:13 AM
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Jardine K...<<..Just out of curiosity,..could you let us know
how you distinguish..what you believe in,..from fascism?>>..

how do..i decide..?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176858

[its sort..of..a guide for tony...and our worlds leaders..too]
that..what they do to..me and you..they do to..god..and jesus..too.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 23 November 2013 8:26:56 AM
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Dear Professor James Arvanitakis,

For good or ill, the major intellectual and social events of recent centuries, has been the progress of science in the transformation of the world. This has produced much anxiety and possibly some vocational envy amongst the humanities academia and the products of their doctrine, the political elites.

The partisan social issues and activities emanating from humanities academia are reflected in their influence upon the corruption of the curriculum in both university and high school education. It also relates to academia’s partial and very public position on scientific issues.

The frequency of opinion on socio/economic/scientific issues from humanities academia is only possible due to a compliant media, in particular public broadcasters who not only declare their partisan position on these issues, they also openly declare it their duty to promote this “truth”.

The influence of Humanities on the curriculums is best evidenced by the outcomes in dumbing down our educational results, this is so we might look at their next doctrinaire elitist pontifications as one of academia’s key achievements.

In addressing your articulation of the issues close to your ideological heart, one cannot help but noticing that these nicely coincide with your “progressiveness”. Whilst it is sad that the political party that best reflects your ideology lost the last election in a humiliating landslide, perhaps it is time for you to reflect upon the fact that a majority of Australians don’t share your perspectives.

It is curious then, that you write to our new PM to “put him back on track” with your lost socialization agenda? Or Could it be that you just wish to appear doctrinaire, partisan, elitist, superior or even a member of the intelligentsia?

As an academic I feel confident that you would wish to consider the above contribution and then re-read your own article. Or would that process invoke standards of discussion that are routine to rationalists but seem so remote to you that “reality ignorance” hardly seems ignorance at all.

Please feel free to discuss at your next lecture, let us know how you go.

Yours sincerely,

Spindoc.
Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 23 November 2013 9:03:52 AM
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Thanks James - well done!!
Posted by Atlarak, Saturday, 23 November 2013 9:08:03 AM
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Good post, spindoc.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 23 November 2013 2:34:19 PM
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Looks like they've come up with a new catch cry - progressive. The regress they create is definitely progressive.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 24 November 2013 6:13:56 AM
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What I find most disturbing about this article is not so much the raft of trendy issues that the Professor mentions, but rather, the apparent conflation of these issues with critical thinking. Despite the claim that these issue are "beyond left and right", the issues are actually moral and value laden. Critical thinking skills is not so much about taking a moral position on a matter, it's actually about understanding how a phenomenon is constructed - it's about pulling apart an issue and seeing what all the contributing elements are. The Professor is taking a moral stance on these issues, and is not engaging in critical thinking.

It's one of the major problems with the Humanities and Social Sciences departments at the moment; conflating "progressive" moral judgements with critical thinking. This is why 90% of graduates come out of the department singing the same chorus on these trendy issues; they haven't been taught how to think, they've been taught what to think.
Posted by Aristocrat, Sunday, 24 November 2013 9:41:21 PM
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Good post, Aristocrat. You boys (girls?) are really on the ball today.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 25 November 2013 3:13:44 AM
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Aristocrat,

Your comments about critical thinking strike a cord, or should I say a thread which seems to permeate much of the socialized (moral and value laden) fabric of “progressiveness”.

We are led to believe from all the prognostications offered by humanities academia, Fairfax, ABC, political elites, advocates and social engineers in general, that those who do not subscribe to their ideology are “plebs” with many juvenile and offensive descriptions, yet those who do subscribe to rhetoric are presented as “thinkers”?

Now this is curious. You rightly point out that the attributes of critical thinking are more about analysis. Moral and value judgments can play a role however, this is only relevant after critical analysis and not as a substitute.

Critical thinking had been variously defined as "the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion" and "disciplined thinking that is clear, rational, open-minded, and informed by evidence".

If one is able to accomplish critical thinking, any conclusions drawn can be defended logically.

If this process is bypassed and replaced by only moral and value based criteria, the conclusions drawn are difficult to defend and are often replaced with rhetoric delivered with angst, venom and belligerence.

Socialization though morals and value are removing the rigor upon which non humanities topics are analyzed. Without the discipline of “is it true?” backed up with the harsher discipline of “does it work?” there is only rhetoric.

The socialization advocates promote abandoning the idea of non humanities subjects as a separate domain of activity and enquiry, they promote that these must be understood not as a means of acquiring objective general truths about the world, but simply as another form of social behavior!

This of course is alien to critical thinking or for that matter, any thinking at all.

Progressives are in fact those who accept the ideological mantra without critical thinking.

The conclusion must be drawn that the real thinkers are the plebs and the progressives live in a world of rhetoric. No thinking required, just the ongoing quest for relevance.
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 25 November 2013 10:54:37 AM
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James what is the difference between your view of the role of government, and fascists view of the role of government?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 7:37:18 AM
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Hi spindoc. Good points there. You too, Lego.
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 12:26:23 PM
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Lawsuit in U.S. District Court accuses the Fed of “embezzling” $7 Trillion from the United States
As requested, here is the Scribd link to the legal cite:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/153024003/Amended-Complaint-Federal-Reserve-whistleblower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d0HO5YyIve0

http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/investmentwatchblog-fed-hides-trillions-lawsuit-in-u-s-district-court-accuses-the-fed-of-embezzling-7-trillion-from-the-united-states-26-november-2013/

www.investmentwatchblog.com / link to original article
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 November 2013 5:07:06 PM
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UK tells Israel not to disrupt Iran deal
http://xrepublic.tv/node/6379
as defiant Netanyahu comes under fire
http://rt.com/news/uk-iran-netanyahu-reaction-277/

Britain will “discourage” Israel from trying to undermine the nuclear deal with Iran, UK Foreign Secretary William Hague says. Israeli media criticizes PM Benjamin Netanyahu for reacting over “personal failure” as he refuses to be “bound” by the deal.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/11/44973-a-moment-of-great-danger-and-great-promise/

“We would discourage anybody in the world, including Israel, from taking any steps that would undermine this agreement and we will make that very clear to all concerned,” Hague told the UK parliament on Monday.
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/11/21/aipac-says-either-obama-backs-down-on-iran-or-its-war/
He said that there was no apparent sign that any country opposed to the agreement would try to disrupt it “in any practical way,” adding that the UK would still be “on its guard.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/11/25/israel-still-holds-plenty-of-u-s-cards/


GOOD ON UK FOREIGN SECRETARY HAGUE!!

With regard to Netanyahu's hubristic arrogance and threats regarding Iran , it appears Hague has "grown a pair", and is not afraid to use them.

shame tony..hasnt
http://m.smh.com.au/national/tony-abbott-quietly-shifts-un-position-to-support-israeli-settlements-upsetting-palestinians-20131124-2y434.html

here is why
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/netanyahu-blasts-obama-iran-israeli-leader-article-1.1529096?
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/11/22/335998/israel-called-shots-from-grassy-knoll/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hqo2c_SxQag

here is its fruits
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/slavery-by-consent-full-version/

another mosad op
http://bit.ly/1heY14V
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/11/44973-a-moment-of-great-danger-and-great-promise/

not..just tony
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2513592/Is-TV-spying-YOU.html

But the real pinch the US government is feeling is economic. In a couple of moves the Chinese government made last week (which should have caused US markets to at least stutter a bit, but didn't), China announced that it was only going to accept payment for oil it buys in the currency of the yuan, and was going to stop stockpiling US dollars.
http://www.phantomreport.com/pentagon-builds-forces-in-pacific-eyes-china
Dumping the US treasury notes they hold would be a form of asymmetric warfare, and would cause a complete collapse in the US dollar, with a global replacement by a gold-backed yuan.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/how-wall-street-turned-america-into-incarceration-nation/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/decline-of-the-american-empire-global-configurations-of-power-the-swindle-economy-and-the-criminal-state/5359263

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-jewish-holocaust-hoax/

http://www.phantomreport.com/pentagon-builds-forces-in-pacific-eyes-china
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 30 November 2013 7:42:46 AM
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http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thequestion.jpg

http://investmentwatchblog.com/must-watch-video-the-world-is-heading-towards-a-huge-collapse-of-its-fiat-currency-system-with-hyperinflation-as-an-inevitable-result/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/david-stockman-because-of-global-central-banks-theres-a-worldwide-bubble-in-stocks/

http://www.naturalblaze.com/2013/11/the-current-vaccine-reality-disinformed.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/why-is-debt-the-source-of-income-inequality-and-serfdom-its-the-interest-baby/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/venezuela-denies-goldmans-gold-deal-as-inflation-tops-54/
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 December 2013 5:28:07 PM
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Dear Individual

A very interesting response telling me I am 'only an academic'… This is the type of response I often get from those who have run our of ideas. Usually by those who have done little themselves.

Let's have a pissing contest since I am only an academic: I worked my way through uni as a bouncer; I then worked 8 years in banking and finance building a successful career but left to work around the working in conflict zones; I completed a PhD while working full-time in less than 4 years and I have 4 books, countless articles and am international recognised for my research and teaching.

Mostly I am a teacher - which I love and work with students who have been homeless and use my office to sleep, to those who are the first in their family to attend uni. I love it and am proud of what I do.

Over to you Individual… impress me?
Posted by JamesArvanitakis, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 5:53:21 PM
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Here's a portrait of incongruity.

This toughie (perhaps an ex-bouncer) stands on the corner throwing mud at passersby. Six gentlemen (all on their way to an important fund raising function in aid of widows and orphans in sub-Saharan Africa) happen by and are similarly assaulted --after many many many attempts to negotiate a peaceful political solution they decide they have no other option than to disarm the culprit.

Shockadelic: tweaks the attackers fingers & takes his bowl of muck away.
Jardine: gives him a kick up the backside.
Lego:gives him a black eye.
Aristocrat:gives him a bloody nose.
Spindoc shoves him over.
Hasbeen slowly empties the last bowl of muck over him.
And in passing, Individual gives him a teasing pat on the head.

After an hour of two the toughie picks himself up, makes eye holes in his mud mask, looks around and says: "Hoy! Individual, I've got a bone pick with you"
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 3:42:02 PM
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and oug..says
drop..ya dacks..we will soon see the better man.

the trouble with/life..is people get 'hung'=up..on who they are
those so cursed..arnt so cursed by god..but demons..pushing the limit

this is an example of cahoonies..
[playing the man..not..the errors/of-fact]

oh tony..dont be fooled..dont be led
EVEN..alex/jones..has..seen/the light
http://rss.infowars.com/20131203_Tue_Alex.mp3

in-fact..his anger..helps..me..to/control/mine
http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss

anyhow..now...im..calm.

recall even/the pope..met/the lion

The Holy Spirit has/taken..very diversified areas..of YOUR/OWN.past learning,..and..*has applied them*.to..a UNIFIED curriculum.

The fact..that this/was..NOT..the ego’s..*reason/for learning..is totally irrelevant...*YOU..FREELY..made the effort..to learn,..
and the Holy Spirit/

has..a/unified goal..for ALL effort.

He;..ADAPTS/the ego’s potentials...for excelling/self
to potentials..*for/EQUALIZING...[making better..FOR*other]

revealing..gods great gifts
[and..the..ego/s..great-grifts]

This makes..them USELESS..for the ego’s purpose,
but..the..extreme/example..is VERY useful..for times..such/as tHis.

WE all..ARE..children/*of..GOD*
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176858

Called “Evangelii Gaudium,”..(the Joy of the Gospel),
http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

the document offers..the Roman Catholic Church..a road map of sorts for navigating..the complexities of the..modern world,..with the Gospel..as a compass for.;.what the pope..called

“a new phase..of ev-angelization,.
*one marked by..enthusiasm..joy..and vitality.”
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 4:12:48 PM
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