911 was designed to bring about a totalitarian state. Govts who want absolute power have to do this. http://www.ae911truth.org/

Interesting article indeed.

Surveillance of all ? Well this is the price one pays when one expects the state to be the benevolent parent ... the government will fix everything, will take care of your health and education, will look after you in your old age, will protect you from all crime, will build you a new house. Produce children one cannot afford? Don't worry. The state will provide.

The only way to lessen obtrusive government is to reject what the government offers and take control of ones own affairs. But of course this leads to the government to "looking after" those who cannot or will not look after them selves.

One cannot have a highly regulated and democratic socialist country with out the government syping on the populous.

MURRAY HUNTER-"Consequently, it is not in the interests of the Australian or US intelligence community for any public or even parliamentary discussion. The idea that the parliament and executive are in total control of government is a myth."

but; the parliament and executive do have control of the Army.
whoever controls the army has control of the country and the government

if the Australian Army was totally made up of Indonesian
or Al-Quaeda or some other type of militia then the present
government would not have control of the country at all.
Worry about that, not spying or survelliance to catch terrorists
and enemies. What are you people so worried about, you
must have a very interesting sex life on your phones or
something , I don't care how much they survey my phone
I have absolutely nothing to hide. They are looking
for certain words anyway, like chemicals used to make bombs
and any security threats to the country as a whole.

they couldn't possibly have the time to stop and read
about everybodys sex life out of the millions and millions
of snippets of conversation coming throug they'd be their until
next millenium and couldn't possible acheive their security
objectives

The government already knows all about you already
due to the census and your tax file number.

the only thing this big worry about them tapping into mobiles
and computers that I can figure out must be the secret affairs
and sex lives that people are trying to hide. Nothing else
the government could find would be anything they didn't know about
Except security threats. Or organised crime.
Rest assured,
they already know your age, where you live, where you work,
how many children you do or do not have, how much you earn.

Mobile Phones and computers have created a world
where a civil war can be organised in a couple of days
by communication.

This is inevitably going to lead to governments listening
in to an extent they didn't feel threatened enough to do
in times of the big old public phone booths and Australia Post.

It would seem to be the down side to the
technological revolution in the past decades.

The fact that something that promised so much freedom
will lead to so much more control by governments around
the world seeing the huge security threat posed by
phones and computers to incite riots and civil wars.

Progress has often proven to be a double edged sword
marvellous on one side, deadly on the other.

Take the car, such wonderful freedom, but over six million
fatalities world wide and probably just as big a number
left maimed and badly injured. It's like Russian Roulette
out there on the roads.

Then there is the gun, marvellous hunting tool to provide food,
and for self-defence, but so deadly it has been used to
slaughter millions and millions of people in wars etc.

I could just continue listing one after the other of these
but it would take up to much room.

So this is what is happening with phones and computers.
We are seeing the bad outcome on the other side of the
sword, the irony, that the freedom the technology allows
will also lead to tighter conrol and big brother on the
other side.

CHERFUL, "Then there is the gun, marvellous hunting tool to provide food,and for self-defence, but so deadly it has been used to
slaughter millions and millions of people in wars etc"

It wasn't the invention of gun powder or the firearm, it was government's decisions that resulted in that carnage. However the firearm did save millions from tyranny and death at the hands of the Nazis. Guns in the hands of good men also saved Australia from possible occupation by the Japanese.

If your purpose in saying that was to support the author's contention that the population should be wary of government, you succeeded. At the same time you justified private legal ownership of firearms. For if there is to be any limit on government abusing its power, it is only the reality of the people having some practical means of effectively resisting government, that works. Perhaps the US founding fathers knew something about the risk of losing precious liberty when they promoted the existence of a 'well regulated militia'.