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How Australia is spying on its own : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 19/11/2013

The Australian security state is collecting intelligence on an Orwellian scale never seen before.

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JF Aus,

<<Imagine if it was Indonesia spying on Mr Howard's wife, or Mr Abbott's wife or daughters, say during a time when personal woman's conversation was taking place>>

MAYBE THEY DID -see story below:

"In a 2004 interview, retiring Indonesian intelligence chief General Abdullah Mahmud Hendropriyono said his agency tapped Australian civil and military communications and politicians' phone calls.It also made unsuccessful attempts to recruit Australian spies, he said."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/indonesia-spied-on-australia-in-2004-says-ex-intelligence-chief/story-fn59nm2j-1226763231240
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 6:15:34 AM
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some simple..home truths..govt lie to you
govt agencies are there to serve private corporate mates
get others business/secrets..and the dirt..onfuture 'party-loyalists'[ya got the dirt on.]

what tonies missing..is that we dont let..china
build our phony..tony..telephony..system

yet...gasp..chinese..not*
because the china man..will..spy on..us

well tony..now the wet sock..is on..the other foot
WE ALL..DO IT..so get out of business..of picking winners
and stop the whining...i know two faced..and im seeing it here.

oh..its just fine and dandy..if its the mossad or
the usa's..40 other spying agencies..but not the chinese?

im seeing cross-eyed
or one eyed...logic..

and re this keeping the boat/people..info close to ya chest
dont wash neither..if the traffickers are getting it direct..from the media..in..the lands..of the foreigner..the darker yellow/dark peril

its purely to keep ausies in the dark
not the..angels of mercy..helping the modern day jew..escape..modern..SYSTEMATIZED..govt oppression..actively recorded order by order..that we yet again..will never hear..nor even any court

by their works..will..we know you
not ya..pr/spinners carefully worded/words
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 6:50:49 AM
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Indeed SPQR, anyone who think Indonesia is not spying on Australia is
having themselves on.
We now know the ABC obtained the information some months ago and
held onto it till after the election so they could use it politically,
the ABC should have its radio spectrum licences cancelled and the
responsible ABC staff should be prosecuted.

I don't think some of the correspondents we are hearing from on OLO
realise the seriousness of the ABC's action.
If it was wartime they would be put against a wall before a firing squad.
Isn't there a law against revealing such information ?
Probably they never understood the upheaval and questioning of the
security apparatus after 9/11.

I don't think they will understand until an Al Quada bomb goes off in Sydney killing tens or hundreds.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 7:20:23 AM
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Spying on a president or pm and wife via their modern mobile phones in this day and age is absolutely different to government agencies spying on each other or on criminal activity. No doubt about that.

Two apologies are now due from Mr Abbott and if they are made absolutely urgently then relations may get back to normal.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 7:36:49 AM
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Bazz,

<<We now know the ABC obtained the information some months ago and
held onto it till after the election...>>

If that can be verified everyone responsible should be sacked.
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JF Aus

You obviously missed my post above --here it is again:

"In a 2004 interview, retiring Indonesian intelligence chief General Abdullah Mahmud Hendropriyono said his agency tapped Australian civil and military communications and politicians' phone calls.It also made unsuccessful attempts to recruit Australian spies, he said."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/indonesia-spied-on-australia-in-2004-says-ex-intelligence-chief/story-fn59nm2j-1226763231240

How about SBY apologizes first,ay!
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 7:43:56 AM
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SPQR,

I saw your post and actually replied about it, because it is about agencies spying on agencies.
In my view the present case is very much about spying on the wife and leader using their personal phones.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 8:00:25 AM
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