The only people that appear to want criminal bikie organisation to exist are academics and "progressives". No one else cares about them. What do these people offer society? Does their existence make the world a better place? Why do the "progressives" who idealise social harmony want to protect a group that threatens this harmony?

Good on Newman. You have my full support.

Aristocrat

I don’t want to protect bikie gangs and I’d be delighted if they all disappeared tomorrow. This is not about whether one approves of bikies or wants to protect them, but about the use and abuse of the law. People should be prosecuted for what they do, not who they associate with.

Outlaw motorcycle gangs roam our streets with signs on their backs proudly displaying that they are violent criminal organisations and this author thinks it is wrong for our laws to recognise that fact.

If our laws do not recognise self evident reality, then there is something wrong with our laws. Why is it that so people who wax lyrical on civil rights are only concerned about the civil rights of dangerous criminals, illegal immigrants, and terrorists? But when real attacks upon civil liberties that affect ordinary people come up, they are missing in action?

Where was this author when Nicola Roxon was contemplating "licensing" the press, and where was he when journalist Henry Bolt was being prosecuted for doing his job and commenting about the high number of people claiming aboriginal benefits who had only the merest trace of aboriginal ancestry?

The primary reason why our civil liberties are being curtailed is because of multiculturalism. Our society was never meant to operate with large numbers of people who's concepts of right and wrong are so completely different to those of the North European Protestant people who populated it and made it the wonderful country that it is.

In NSW, the Police can now pull over any car at random and search it which is a violation of our traditional concept that police may not search anyone without probable cause. And we can thank our Vietnamese minority for that because of the high levels of drug trafficking involving the use of Vietnamese drug couriers using cars to make interstate deliveries. The now out-of-control bikie gangs are now mainly populated by Turks, Lebanese, Arabs and Pacific Islanders who are the usual suspects in any offences involving drug trafficking and mindless violence.

But you can bet that this author will never mention that. All he wants to do is to tell us how bad us Australians are and how wrong it is to persecute the criminals, terrorists and illegal immigrants he identifies with.

the spiritual..di-mention
rates a mention

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#175315

GOVERNMENT/religion..seems to..have missed..the point that..ethics..are descriptions..of spontaneous/feeling-states,..
rather than rules..to/be legislated...

Being.."forced"..to.."love..one's neighbor,"...

one*..may never learn..to do it..spontaneously...
often..Lower-developmental/stages..never succeed..in "legislating" higher ones...

Christ's exhortation..is..rather..a call..each..to transformation,.through growth;..

the only way..to reach the next stage...
This growth/then..is a primary task..of the regeneration process.

Rhian the lawyers, judges & the civil libertarians have been abusing our justice system, to their own ends for years. It is time we took it off the profession, who have almost destroyed it, & gave it back to the people. Newman is doing that by the looks of it.

Now all we need is a law making anyone who has ever attended a law school, ineligible for appointment to the bench, & all existing judges immediately retired.

With a crop of laymen on the bench, we'd have much more chance of getting justice, rather than the "Law" that we currently suffer.

Hasbeen

Better still, let’s abolish formal legal processes entirely, and set up kangaroo courts staffed only by opinionated but legally uneducated people with a disdain for the law, who pass judgement entirely on the basis of popular sentiment, without reference to facts and circumstances.

Come to think of it, there might be a load of former bikies with time on their hands available who could suit the jobs description quite well.