It is nothing short of amazing how the Greens, political 'Progressives' and civil rights mob are instantly on the front foot to defend the 'civil rights' of the OMG bikies, even calling for a Bill of Rights (that they draft, naturally),

but,

there is nothing, nada, nil, not even a whisper from them about the John Howard inspired 'gun control' laws that allow police to conduct fully uniformed, compulsory, random inspections in the homes of the thousands of highly respectable citizens who have been found to be of exemplary character to hold a firearms licence?

There is plenty of hand-wringing about protecting the sensibilities and 'rights' of thugs who do drive-by shootings and bombings to protect their drug territory. But apparently it is quite OK, a good idea even, to have the personal particulars of thousands of legally licensed, law-abiding citizens on police computers as 'persons of interest', with the information available to police mobiles when conduct routine checks of the public, eg traffic.

However they are screams of indignant, self-righteous rage should a police patrol pull over an OMG bikie, who is likely carrying drugs or weapons anyhow.

What an odd world the Left live in, a parallel universe where 'civil libertarians' and civil rights lawyers believe is OK for police to be constantly looking over the shoulder of good citizens with lifetimes of exemplary behaviour, but even stopping a member of a OMG for a routine check is simply dreadful, it might upset their tender sensibilities, delay their travel to work (?!) and is by the weird definitions used by the Left, automatically an infringement of the bikies' rights.

I have never heard anything said by one of the civil rights mob, all of whom appear to be lawyers, not uttered for any reason but to make law enforcement more difficult, enabling them to get their criminal clients, [mates ?], off charges, regardless of their guilt.

I guess the crims then stay out of the leafy green the lawyers inhabit in return.

Time to take our law back from the profession. If ex lawyer judges won't do the job, time to get rid of the, too.

Drug trafficking and use, sex slavery, thuggery, violence, intimidation – all of these are already illegal. If the existing laws are not enforceable or adequate they should be amended and strengthened. We don’t need laws prohibiting association.

Rhian
how would you feel if you were shot while out shopping, at your local mall with your family on a Saturday morning, by a Bikie shooting at other bikies.

How would you enforce laws that would prevent this situation. Don't dare try to tell me these thugs are respectful of laws protecting our rights to go about peacefully or that they are frightened by the deterents in our current laws. Quite obviously they are not.

Hi imajulianutter

You ask, “how would you feel if you were shot while out shopping, at your local mall with your family on a Saturday morning, by a Bikie shooting at other bikies”

I would expect the police to track them down and bring them to justice.

I’d feel about the same as if I was shot by a teen gang member on an initiation binge, a drug dealer fighting rivals for territory, someone spaced out by crystal meth, a religious or political nutter with a cause to promote, someone with a dangerous mental illness, or someone planning to steal my money. All terrible. All illegal. All capable of being addressed by existing laws.

I’m sure your right these people don’t respect our laws. So if the prospect of being locked up for murder or manslaughter doesn’t deter them, why do you expect them to respect laws that threaten to lock them up for illegal bikie gang activity?

I also think it’s rather peculiar that we are proposing a law that could produce a more draconian sentence for someone who accidentally shoots a bystander in a bikie war than someone who deliberately blows them up in a terrorist bombing.

…I have always maintained the idea that each and every town in Australia should have an execution wall installed at their local sports oval. Every weekend before the football match, local grubs such as crocked politicians, crocked cops and the loose assortment of other anti-social misfits and petty thieves can be whisked away at the point of a bullet at this public forum.