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Human violence: understanding it; ending it : Comments

By Robert Burrowes, published 10/10/2013

Why does fear prevent an 'intelligent' individual acting on sound evidence? There are many reasons.

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Is Mise, "I declined his advice and put 8 shots into a 7.5 inch group on the chest of the figure target"

The prevailing political correctness dictates that you should not be shooting at even stylised images of people. Oh and you shouldn't be using bullets. That gun has to go too!

What are you like at nagging the offender into submission? That is the way approved by OLO's hoplophobic whingers, and also modelled by them.

Think about the children.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 11 October 2013 9:52:05 PM
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Is Mise "As an example, the last time that I shot on an Army range the Range Officer made a suggestion "Sir, I think you should use two hands" as I took my position on the firing line with the service issus 9mm Bpowning pistol.
I declined his advice and put 8 shots into a 7.5 inch group on the chest of the figure target."

Am I supposed to be impressed Is Mise, that you put holes in a piece of cardboard?
I'm not...sorry...

Non-violent people don't need guns unless they are in the military in a war zone, or they are law enforcement officers.
Anyone else holding a gun is just a child playing "cowboys and Indians".
Yee hah and giddy up...!
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 12 October 2013 1:49:10 AM
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>>Intending offenders will always get the weapons they need, be it petrol, guns, knives or whatever.<<

Because they possess initiative and diligence. Qualities that would-be gun-owners seem to lack.

People who want something badly enough will make their own opportunities to get it, either dodging around the law or just smashing through it.

You can't buy thermite on the open market. You probably can't sell thermite on the open market either. I haven't looked that deeply into it because it's pretty easy to make your own thermite. That's probably illegal too but it's hard to police. If you're just setting it off in your backyard for your own amusement and not using it to destroy property I doubt the police care, and nor should they.

You can buy beer on the open market. But you can't buy reasonably priced beer: the Government imposes a hefty excise on alcohol in addition to normal taxes. If you want to have a beer but not pay through the nose for it then you basically have two options:
a) Nick it. By far the cheapest method but it wouldn't sit well on my conscience.
b) Brew it. More labour intensive and expensive than theft, but far cheaper than buying commercial beer: you only have to pay GST because the government has yet to figure out a way to tax yeast for fermenting. Instead of the guilt of theft or the sour grapes of over-pricing you get a nice warm fuzzy from the feeling of a job well done when you bottle, and the same nice warm fuzzy when you crack the first bottle of a new batch. And you get cheap beer.
Posted by Tony Lavis, Saturday, 12 October 2013 2:36:31 AM
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Beer isn't hard to make. Neither is thermite. Or black powder. I've never tried my hand at it but I had a mate who used to cast his own lead soldiers... lead soldiers are a lot more intricate than bullets. It might be illegal to buy guns but is it illegal to build them in your back shed?

If the people who claim to want guns so much wanted them as much as the criminals who want incendiary bombs or the Scrooges who want cheap beer then they would to what the criminals and the Scrooges do: knuckle down and learn how to make them for themselves.

Have we really become so soft and Septic and consumerised (or should that be consumed) that even the die-hard patriots - our last line of defence against the Muslim Menace - will throw their hands up in dismay and confusion because they can't buy the latest shiny handgun off the shelf? People were building firearms before they figured out that the earth revolves around the sun: it can't be that hard.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Saturday, 12 October 2013 2:37:15 AM
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>>the last time that I shot on an Army range the Range Officer made a suggestion "Sir, I think you should use two hands" as I took my position on the firing line with the service issus 9mm Bpowning pistol.
I declined his advice and put 8 shots into a 7.5 inch group on the chest of the figure target.
Timer read 3.23 seconds.<<

Then I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Saturday, 12 October 2013 2:46:49 AM
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Suseonline, "Anyone else holding a gun is just a child playing "cowboys and Indians". Yee hah and giddy up...!"

That idiotic post is representative of your irrational bigotry.

Do the names Laetisha Scanlan and Catherine Skinner mean anything to you? They created Australian shooting history after winning gold and silver in the women’s trap at the World Cup event in Al-Ain, UAE.

Here is an interview of Laetisha Scanlan, 23-year-old shooter, Gold medalist at the Trap Women Finals in the ISSF Shotgun World Cup 2013. The sort of dedicated, successful sportswoman you label as a cowboy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeydTHVUYs

Shooting is one of the few sports and recreations that has an enviable record for welcoming women and the disabled, many of whom have fine records too.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 12 October 2013 5:16:50 AM
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