i need to devote..a full-post..to swedenberg..[the scientist]

free down loadable/texts
http://www.thelordsnewchurch.com/free_swedenborg_books_online.html

the meaning..of words he uses
http://www.thelordsnewchurch.com/online_books/english/Glossary_of_Terms_and_Phrases_Used_by_Swendenborg__John_Stuart_Bogg_v1.pdf

a summation..of his math
http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15067#15067

the creation..pdf quoted from..in the above..summation
http://webhome.idirect.com/~abraam/documents/Creation.pdf

like all texts..we must search-out..
the humane from..the human...in texts of the man

[we by our mortal/material/nature..
live the finite lie..among the infinite of good true souls..who..yet sustain..to be real,

that acim..explains..isnt really..real..
[but that we..by choosing..to make real..]..
we thus become liars..as only gods good..was ever real..the rest..we shaded into..shades of grey..then into black/white

[but only life logic love..
[the real revealed..in..the light]
sustained of the light..[the light=real..the rest[darkness..thats us]

but we each..hold our SPECIFIC uses

<<..There are those..who imagine
that the terms used in the Writings are a hindrance to a clear understanding of their meaning...But the terms employed are those adequate to convey a correct idea..of the subject elucidated.

That no..others would serve the purpose intended
is distinctly stated..by Swedenborg.

It is observable..that some of the terms used,
e.g., Internal,External, Natural, Rational, Spiritual, Celestial,
etc., are dealt with in the Glossary..under various headings,
each adding something to the..student's knowledge of the
particular subject treated of.

The translations of the Writings of Swedenborg in the
future, as in the past, are likely to differ ; hence it has
been thought best to give the Latin original of the term
or phrase.

In each case, this immediately follows the..English translation>>

darn scientists..they need be so specific
thus is science..compatible..with the being..of the believing..of the god being.

precise meaning..to..the extremely fine detail
[not one lost soul..not one lost feather]..gods mind..is the supreme precision instrument..

science cant grasp him..but
the science mind is important..without the falsification..of our personal witness..as revealed..in his light

yet any [distraction/refraction/destruction..and the light glares..flares..instead of en-lightens]..heck science cant even reveal how electrons 'flow'..or that light is photon..in vibratory waves

[or that pressures..that induce change of state..relate to the decrease..of its orbiting electrons orbiting plane's..by proximity..being forced..into lower..[more dense]..less volatile states.

thing is horatio..
its all..been..said/done..by better than we 3

just mind-synche..to it
it finds you..like a magnet..thinking it attracts more of the same

Dear Banjo,

The God of the Bible makes playthings of us. We enact scenarios that He sets up. The drama of the Exodus is a bit of theatre with God as playwright. Why doesn’t Pharaoh let the Jews go? God has decided to prolong the drama a bit longer.

Exodus 4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

God has manipulated Pharaoh’s mind. Maybe He is manipulating our minds. Perhaps this discussion we are having is a bit of theatre. He has manipulated our minds to conclude that He does not exist. He has manipulated the minds of George and OUG to conclude that He exists.

He may also be setting up dramas enacted by the cellulose eating bacteria in the guts of termites. I don’t know what the deity finds of interest.

allow/me to..use davids_clue
along..with..the present word..

1st..search result..for [swedenberg Exodus 4:21]
http://www.swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_arcana_coelestia_10.pdf

Volume 10 of Arcana Coelestia
continues..Swedenborg’s verse-by verse..exposition,
or..commentary,..of the biblical text..of the book of Exodus.

As was the custom..in his day,
Swedenborg referred to..the Psalms..as the book of David,..and to the Pentateuch..(Genesis,..Exodus,..Leviticus,..Numbers,..and Deuteronomy)..as the books of Moses.

In this volume..Swedenborg continues
his practice of..inserting topical articles..or "continuation" passages between each..chapter of..the textual exegesis.

The page/number of the start of
each..of these continuations is listed..in the table of contents.

to clarify..davids abjection..
is as simple..as exploring the two..synche points..of simul-tude

this i wil.. attempt to further do
as i began it..at the last post..here

http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15069#15069

i may/need to quote..to clarify..from here
http://www.thelordsnewchurch.com/online_books/english/Glossary_of_Terms_and_Phrases_Used_by_Swendenborg__John_Stuart_Bogg_v1.pdf

but between...the two davids
off the cuff reply..[exodus 4;21]
is revealed according.as intended....at this time..via these guide posts..[live time all..the time]..but first ineed find the index..here

http://www.swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_arcana_coelestia_10.pdf

as an exersize..
give it a try

even if only by divination..
[i..will randomly draw down..the side sliding bar]

in..this case..<<..ARCANA COELESTIA 5729

good,..that is,
when he acts..from faith and not yet from charity,
he..is in a state..of undergoing temptations...By these he is progressively,,carried to the second state, namely, that he acts from good, that is,..from charity..and the affection [love/affectation]..of it.

When therefore he comes near/to this state,
he is said to be “encamped at the mount of God,”
that/is,..at the good..*from which he will afterward act.

This is said/because
in what now follows..the subject treated of..is the new disposition or setting in order..of the truths..for entering into this state,

[to which the man..of the church..
comes after he has undergone temptations,]..and before the law Divine is inscribed..on his heart.

In what precedes..the subject treated of..was temptations,
and in what..now follows it is the law ..promulgated from Mount Sinai.

“Mount-Sinai”..denotes
the good..in which..is truth.>>
[funny..its not here..in swedenberg dictionary]
http://www.thelordsnewchurch.com/online_books/english/Glossary_of_Terms_and_Phrases_Used_by_Swendenborg__John_Stuart_Bogg_v1.pdf

ok..*from the mount
lets seek..to read the revealing..of exodus 4;21
http://www.swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_arcana_coelestia_10.pdf

in my own time..
[ps..i made my..own way..to get to..my real reason]

re-posting the link..[i just updated][tried to clean-up/laboriously]
http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15069#15069
next re/post this..next..then research
[its how..spirits..get through eternity]

.

Dear David,

.

“The God of the Bible makes playthings of us. We enact scenarios that He sets up. The drama of the Exodus is a bit of theatre with God as playwright. Why doesn’t Pharaoh let the Jews go? God has decided to prolong the drama a bit longer.”

.

Yes, David. All the world’s a stage.

Who could ignore that God used the quill and ink of Shakespeare to describe the seven ages he programmed for mankind :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K95vJzw8RKc

.

ok let..swedenberg take davids/point

<<..It is said here..and in what follows
that “Jehovah hardened the heart of Pharaoh.”

<<..This is so said..from the appearance>>..
[by the look..of things..of man]

<<..and from the..common notion*..
of the Divine..as doing all things;*..*but this
is to be..understood* in the same way..as when evil, anger, fury, devastation,..and other..like things are..*attributed*..to Jehovah or the Lord>>..WRONG*

please note ..earlier point

<<..6997...And the anger..of Jehovah..was kindled against Moses.

<<..That..this signifies clemency..
this..is evident..from the signification of..“the..anger of Jehovah” as..*not being anger,..but..[as its god/good]..the opposite of anger,

thus mercy..is here,..and here clemency.>>>

despite material error/..errant attributions

WHY?
..because angels KNOW*..there is no anger..in god
just as any follower would KNOW..their messenger isnt about murder*..

you KNOW*..god=good..full-stop..
so if god is mentioned..we KNOW..to see love
[regardless of the vile spell..wrote into words..surrounding..the true [known..by its qualities]..not nature..of the named..

Quote:

<<<That Jehovah..*has not any anger is
evident..from the fact that..*he is love itself,
good itself, and mercy itself; ...and anger..is the opposite*, and also is a weakness..of the flesh,*..which..thus..cannot be applicable to God;>>

<<and therefore when..in the Word..“anger”
is predicated..of Jehovah or the Lord, the angels.*do not..perceive anger,[lie/error]...but [perceive]..either mercy..or the removal of the evil..from heaven;>>

angels KNOW*..our masters qualities[voice]
of love grace mercy..eternally..infinitely

see also..re-edit

<<...ARCANA COELESTIA 5729

temptations,

good,..that is,..when..he acts..from faith *
he..thus..is in a state..of undergoing temptations...and not..yet acting..from charity,

By these temptations..he is progressively,,carried to the second state, namely,..that he acts from good,..that is,..from charity..to other..

[and the affection..[love]..of good..
achieved..in the doing of it...for love of other.>>
http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15070#15070

im..sorry..that wasnt made clear
think..of it..like me saying..david writes in..chinese ..>

{you will..instantly..know..THATS FAULSE]
YET WOULD BE partially TRUE..if said re me..by me
yet that too..we know is un-true

[..this among many..other materialist distorting misrepresentations..makes it plain..the texts are of ,men..but designed to be read..with spiritual eyes..that KNOW..god=love..ALWAYS*

Dear oug,

Swedenborg like many others who try to excuse evil sees evil as good.

http://www.evilbible.com/

… God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).

Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matthew 19:12 ASV) I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.