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The elephant in the room: western violence : Comments

By Uthman Badar, published 3/6/2013

Muslim violence pales in comparison to western violence in all respects: numbers of people injured and killed, extent of economic and social impact, and brutality.

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The author has done a great job at explaining why rational people should be concerned about Islam.

Well done sir.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 3 June 2013 9:39:51 AM
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'Dirty Wars' was published this year. Written by Jeremy Scahill, it explains in great detail the systematic violence and wanton depravity that emerged when the world became a battlefield, and oversight was abandoned.
At some point after WWII we determined that the energy locked up under Islamic sands was ours by right. When resistance came, the Dogs of War were unleashed. Occasionally, and only occasionally given the constant provocation, those dogs turn on their handlers.
We express surprise and outrage, but what did we think was going to happen? We went looking for the devil and the devil found us. Welcome to blowback.
The tragedy is that it did not have to become like this. But how to fix it, given the spilled blood and deep, deep distrust on both sides now?
Posted by halduell, Monday, 3 June 2013 10:09:31 AM
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Great post exposing the violence of Western imperialism.
Posted by Passy, Monday, 3 June 2013 10:36:03 AM
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I might find some of the views of this author more compelling, if Islam were at peace with itself.
Rather than a hotch potch of tribes continually at war with itself.
Or continually reinventing a man made belief system, that essentially disempowers the individual, but particularly women!
If someone cuts their own throat, the author seems argue, then so should we.
The crimes against Muslims, in the west, do not go investigated, as implied in this piece of patent propaganda!
Only one western nation has a recent history of propping up dictators?
Therefore, the author seems to argue, so do all western nations.
The recent killing of a London based soldier in a very public place, is designed to instil terror!
Which as a common tactic, by radicalised Muslims, is proving entirely counter productive, and progressively removing any sympathy or natural human empathy, for/with our Muslim brothers. Maybe that is the real divide and rule goal and the author seems to be assisting just that?
At the end of the day, there is only good or evil.
And there is simply no way to justify evil.
Indeed, Jihad is a purely intense internal struggle against our very own personal demons!
Even so, we remain entirely free to chose either good or evil!
In conclusion let me add, the sooner we completely divorce ourselves from any dependence on Middle East sourced oil, and what it funds, the better!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:01:16 AM
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Uthman Badar states that he is the media representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia.

This Party aims to unify Muslim nations into one Islamic State or Caliphate ruled by Sharia law and the objective is considered an obligatory religious duty.

Once Hizb ut-Tahrir has succeeded in creating a unified, transnational Islamic state it should press on to expand the state into non-Muslim areas,according to the objectives of the Hizb ut-Tahrir founder Taqiuddin al-Nabhani .

It is banned by some governments and is a powerful Islamic group in more than forty countries,especially in the UK.

Hizb ut-Tahrir achieved notoriety recently during the ANZAC Day celebrations,when the Daily Telegraph quoted:

"A RADICAL Muslim group will likely stir the anger of Diggers and their families after urging Islamic Australians not to participate in Anzac Day celebrations.

Hizb ut-Tahrir published an opinion piece on its website on the eve of Anzac Day, titled "Anzac Day is not for muslims."

It suggests those who fought at Gallipoli were part of a military "failure".

"Further, the 'Anzac spirit' is more mythology than history. It ignores indiscretions by the ANZAC soldiers such burning the belongings of locals in Egypt, brawling, getting drunk and rioting, and contracting venereal diseases due to time spent in local brothels."

Premier Barry O’Farrell has condemned the publication, saying it was "contemptible."

NSW Opposition leader John Robertson said the comments were "disgraceful and offensive.

Badar is now the apologist for the gruesome bestial terrorist murder of the British soldier,which defies belief that he could have the audacity to attempt such propaganda in Australia.

His Party is very active in the UK and it is likely that it also has managed to achieved its share of radicalizing potential terrorists.

Radical Islam use the Western democratic institutions very successfully to achieve their own anti Western goals,as is the case here.

If an Australian were to make similar comments in some Arab countries,he would either face death or jail.

When are we going to wake up?
Posted by mik, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:44:15 AM
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Obviously this bloke would be much happier living in a Muslim country.

Well mate we are not going to oblige you here. Why don't you try one that all ready is Muslim.

You know the ones, where the men wage war on women & children, & blow up shoppers just for fun.

How long is it since you lived in one? Perhaps you've forgotten.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 3 June 2013 1:01:20 PM
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