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Are same sex ties the bonds that break the Libs? : Comments

By Thomas Ryan, published 22/5/2013

The adventures of British Conservative leader David Cameron with same sex marriage ought to warn Australian Liberals off.

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Praxidice, "normal" is about being respectful to all, and not attempting to impose your personal beliefs on others.
You may have "A Chip on your Shoulder", but do your have what it takes to be an Anarchist, as by reading your posts you appear to lack substance in offering an alternative.
Posted by Kipp, Thursday, 23 May 2013 6:48:10 PM
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Things have to change when state regulation of
marriage is unable to ensure the fundamentals of
adulthood and choice - then appropriate legislation
is warranted especially in a country which supposedly
has the separation of state and church.

It's not a question of "if" this will happen.
It's a question of "when."

The will of the people will prevail.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 24 May 2013 10:43:39 AM
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Dear Lexi,

<<state regulation of marriage is unable to ensure the fundamentals of adulthood and choice>>

I am not aware of any state regulation of marriage or denial of the fundamentals of adulthood and choice in Australia [in the area of committed personal relationships, obviously there are many restricting regulations of adult choice in other areas of life].

Anyone can already marry anyone (or even more than one) in Australia - the only question is whether or not they can pay a fee and receive an official piece of paper in return.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 24 May 2013 11:20:44 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

It is the legilsation that is being questioned.
When the Marriage Act is unable to ensure the
fundamentals of adulthood and choice then
appropriate legislative change is warranted.
After all the principles of liberal democracy
holds that consenting adults shall be able to make
any union they wish.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 24 May 2013 2:18:15 PM
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Dear Lexi,

Do you care to explain in what way(s) existing legislation restricts the fundamentals of adulthood and choice?

Yes, the principles of liberal democracy hold that consenting adults shall be able to make any union they wish, but isn't that the case already? Why try to fix what is not broken?

All that activists are currently fighting for is the right of a same-gender couple to pay a fee and receive a piece of paper in return. Why not just save that fee?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 24 May 2013 2:29:49 PM
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Yuyuttsu,

I suppose it's for exactly the same reason as that enjoyed by heterosexual couples....official recognition of the union.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 24 May 2013 2:51:38 PM
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