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Are same sex ties the bonds that break the Libs? : Comments
By Thomas Ryan, published 22/5/2013The adventures of British Conservative leader David Cameron with same sex marriage ought to warn Australian Liberals off.
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Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 2:56:53 PM
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Correction, and apologies David. Peer reviewed evidence, Rational View.
Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 3:08:50 PM
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Oops, Rational-Debate.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 3:13:43 PM
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Its quite simple. Any and every thing that anybody writes and says needs to be looked at or interpreted in the multiple contexts of what they espouse and promote, and more importantly by the company that they keep.
Anyone who uses the quote from John Howard re upholding the truth at the top of his blog is in my opinion seriously deluded and therefore his opinions on anything should be taken with a bath tub full of salt, and be taken on an adventure down the Rabbit Hole with Alice (hoping that Elmer Fudd is not there with his shot gun). Furthermore if you check out the stuff on his blog you will find that it is full of simplistic black and white cliches. No space or room for ambiguity, paradox or shades of grey. Meanwhile of course in my opinion Tony Abbott is potentially (and already is) the biggest two-faced liar that has ever strutted his stuff on the Australian political stage. One of his mentors is Bishop Hart who revealed his two-faced colours at the Royal Commission earlier this week. I expect that his primary mentor and "religious" adviser George Pell will do the same. Meanwhile of course this site describes the crimes that the church fathers have committed and the world wide systematic criminal conspiracy to cover them up. http://www.vaticancrimes.us Such is the nature of the company that Bishop Hart admitted to keeping - with a flippant comment and a smirk on his face. Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 3:49:06 PM
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Oh - and I should have said such is the company from whom Tony Abbott gets his "spiritual" advice.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 3:55:19 PM
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Rhosty, I'm not sure why you think I did my research over the last few minutes. Did I say that? Pretty sure the topic is not so new. This is a topic on which I want to be well informed, for many of the reasons you have outlined, so I have spent extensive time reading material from all quarters and talking with friends of all persuasions. I am yet to find anything that resembles a scientific argument for your statement, yet is consistently gets thrown up as fact. It could be my lack of research skills, but two university degrees would suggest I can tell one end of a book from the other...
I clearly state that this is NOT a "make or break" point regarding the debate but then I didn't introduce it, you did. I didn't ask you to do my research, I have done more than enough. I simply asked you to produce yours, which I sincerely would like to read. So make assumptions all you like, accuse me (falsely) of heaping personal abuse on people, etc but I'm not really sure you are adding constructively to this debate. Posted by rational-debate, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 4:25:24 PM
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Rhrosty is in favour of equal pay, equal rights and equal treatment.
What is true equality? Well, it's definitely not quite different treatment!
The fact that this question is even put, underlines the sheer paucity of argument for the no case.
Peer reviewed evidence David?
Oh, I see! That means any evidence, however compelling, can be simply rejected out of hand, because you personally, can't find some other scientific review.
Almost impossible to find if you are not looking or determined not to allow credible cogent evidence to undermine a personal position; you've likely held for years? And perhaps even relied on, entirely unjustifiably, to hurt now estranged members of your own family?
Simply put, I don't intend to do research your for you, given that would simply allow you to continue living in the personal bubble of denial, that alone supports your denialism.
And one is gob-smacked by the time between my post and your so called in depth conclusion and subsequent post.
Thorough research might take years, rather than the few intervening minutes, during which you claimed your were doing your in depth research!
The personal abuse you heap on all those who take a far more objective and or tolerant view, is hardly a substitute for real in depth and positively conclusive research!
The challenge for you is; find some peer reviewed scientific evidence that quite conclusively, supports your "stone age" medieval view?
Rhrosty.