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Are same sex ties the bonds that break the Libs? : Comments

By Thomas Ryan, published 22/5/2013

The adventures of British Conservative leader David Cameron with same sex marriage ought to warn Australian Liberals off.

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It is indeed difficult to understand why supposed conservatives, such as David Cameron in the UK and John Key in New Zealand, pushed the same-sex marriage barrow. On closer examination, it would be more accurate to describe them as libertarian rather than conservative. Malcolm Turnbull falls into the same boat.

In David Cameron's case, he may yet rue his decision to legislate for same-sex marriage, given indications of subsequent disagreement in his party.

What was notable in both countries, was that the majority of voters were opposed to same-sex marriage. The same applies in Australia. On the other hand if the homosexual lobby were confident that it has the numbers, it would not be so vociferous in opposing Tony Windsor's constructive proposal to hold a referendum to gauge the support for same-sex marriage.
Posted by Raycom, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:36:22 PM
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Raycom, evidence my dear chap not personal comment!
Posted by Kipp, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:51:16 PM
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"Sexual orientation is not something we choose, but rather, something that is decided for us in the womb and by nature!" Rhosty.
Stated as though it were a fact but endless efforts to find any peer reviewed evidence for this has left me empty handed. I'm not saying this impacts on whether gay marriage should be legislated or not but if Rhosty is, then another argument needs to be found.
Posted by rational-debate, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:27:11 PM
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Again Daffy Duck makes absolutely no substantive input into the discussion of the article, preferring to attack the author instead of debating the nature of the article. What a ridiculous post... Daffy Duck if you have nothing to say on the actual article then your shouldn't be posting. Personal attacks just show that you are losing the argument.

Raycom hits the nail on the head. Even in NZ, many conservative supporters have left the National Party. In the UK, many members of the Conservative party, and of the branches have left the party and joined UKIP. If gay rights activists actually believed that they had the support of the whole nation, they would allow a plebiscite on this issue. However they prefer to lobby internally to weak politicians who have no conviction. This shows the nature of the debate. Targeting individuals, instead of allowing a substantive debate.
Posted by Bugs Bunny, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:35:22 PM
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"Sexual orientation is not something we choose, but rather, something that is decided for us in the womb and by nature!"

same arguement the paedophiles can use.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 2:08:13 PM
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I find it interesting that majority of the posts are strongly against marriage equality in Australia. Let me pose a question... How will marriage equality personally affect you?

Statistics show that 65% of Australians are for Gay Marriage, with 85% believing it to be inevitable. So how then will supporting Marriage Equality "break the Libs"?

Sure we can look at happenings from other countries but in reality Australia is a separate entity and we are renowned for our individual views and tastes.
Posted by EmBeth, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 2:08:24 PM
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