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The Salvation Army is a branch of government : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 16/5/2013

The Salvation Army has been marginalised by a ruthless and fearful government.

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>> In my book, providing benefits of any kind to aliens when Australian citizens are disadvantaged thereby, amounts to T R E A S O N.<<

>>This pathetically weak country of ours, wouldn't dare have such an offence listed now<<

Your book is in error praxidice.

From wikipedia:

>>Section 80.1 of the Criminal Code, contained in the schedule of the Australian Criminal Code Act 1995, defines treason as follows:
"A person commits an offence, called treason, if the person:
(a) causes the death of the Sovereign, the heir apparent of the Sovereign, the consort of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(b) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister resulting in the death of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(c) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister, or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(d) levies war, or does any act preparatory to levying war, against the Commonwealth; or
(e) engages in conduct that assists by any means whatever, with intent to assist, an enemy:
(i) at war with the Commonwealth, whether or not the existence of a state of war has been declared; and
(ii) specified by Proclamation made for the purpose of this paragraph to be an enemy at war with the Commonwealth; or
(f) engages in conduct that assists by any means whatever, with intent to assist:
(i) another country; or
(ii) an organisation;
that is engaged in armed hostilities against the Australian Defence Force; or
(g) instigates a person who is not an Australian citizen to make an armed invasion of the Commonwealth or a Territory of the Commonwealth; or
(h) forms an intention to do any act referred to in a preceding paragraph and manifests that intention by an overt act."
A person is not guilty of treason under paragraphs (e), (f) or (h) if their assistance or intended assistance is purely humanitarian in nature.
The maximum penalty for treason is life imprisonment.<<

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Saturday, 18 May 2013 4:31:19 AM
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Thanks Tony, You sure can see who wrote that law. Don't mess with the people in power or their reps, the Sovereign, the heir apparent of the Sovereign, the consort of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister.
The question at hand is how are we going to nail the Salvos. I see it they contravene section (ii) an organisation; definitely an organisation those Salvos, TREASON! Get the firing squad. Oh no, some commie, pinko lefty B's have had the penalty down graded to life imprisonment, dame bleeding heart liberals!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 18 May 2013 11:27:50 AM
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Hi PAUL1405...

Until retirement, I was a detective sergeant of police, and I was neither 'nice' or a 'nasty' copper. I tried to be fair. And after nearly 32 years in law enforcement I have very little patience and certainly no truck with any of the smart arses who, with the protection of anonymity, try to drag the good name of coppers down. Often by means of promulgating inane, fatuous and platitudinous remarks, in the vain hope of denigrating police in mediums such as this ?

Perhaps these individuals should wear 'blue' for a while and then maybe they may seek to alter or modify their distorted position of policing per se. Though for most of them, they'd probably not handle the job particularly well ?
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 18 May 2013 3:40:12 PM
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Paul1405 - There are enough on here in agreement with you to make up the firing squad!

A number of countries have got to the point where 'civilized' measures have been ineffective, hence many of the revolutions recorded in history. It would indeed be a shame if Australians finally give up trying all peaceful means to bring their representatives to heel, however given the extent to which lawyers have infected gubmunt & taken all possible steps to ensure accountability is merely a dictionary word, I can imagine some folk resorting to somewhat less than peaceful protest. There is good reason to believe the fraternity of bloodsucking parasites came to the same conclusion years ago, hence the almost certainly staged event in Tasmania which culminated in disarmament of the people. Frankly, the best chance we have of avoiding blood in the streets, or at the very least in parliament houses, is a major financial crash & consequential termination of all parasite renumeration.

I'm aware of a number of ex-military personnel (albeit not the identities thereof ... for obvious reasons) who have reportedly discussed a para-military coup. Knowing a bit about the prior experience of some of these people I have no doubt whatever that they could overthrow the gubmunt if they were so inclined. For that matter, is it possible to rule out a challenge to the gubmunt of the day by a group of serving high rank officers disgusted with the infantile carryings on in Canberra ?? Unlikely perhaps but certainly not impossible, after all it has happened elsewhere ... or do things of that sort only occur in 'funny' countries ??
Posted by praxidice, Saturday, 18 May 2013 3:41:46 PM
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"I have very little patience and certainly no truck with any of the smart arses who, with the protection of anonymity, try to drag the good name of coppers down." Who here is doing that?
o sung wu You have no problem referring to children and babies as "ILLEGAL Boat opportunists, are nothing more than indolent, slothful criminals" children, babies how is that so?
As for the police, such persons are employed and paid by the state to carry out a particular function on behalf of society, they are not conscripted and are free to leave at anytime. I am ambivalent towards police and the way they perform in society I certainly do not see the position as sacrosanct, when you have a large number of persons in any occupation you will have extremes, from the exemplary to the incompetent, to the down right criminal, the vast majority are to be found somewhere in the middle. I have personally witnessed police being used as a political force, used to quell those that would peacefully protest perceived wrongs in society. I am sure the position of police officer for many has rewards other than financial, and by that I do not mean only criminal rewards, although there have been and still may well be those that profit illegally from the job.
A problem my party in NSW has is police investigating police, The Greens do not see the police as some kind of 'Caesars wife, that is, above reproach', given the position police hold in society and given the function they perform, serious wrong doing on their part is always a possibility. If calling for openness and transparency with independent investigation is seen as attacking police, then we are guilty as charged.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 18 May 2013 5:29:04 PM
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Paul1405 - Rather than post a comment about the subject of discussion you deliberately posted quotes from people who have commented, the only quotes you re-posted were ones that are different to what you would have and proceed to imply that they must therefore be Nazis.

Be careful with your latest tactic it may come back and people could start doing it to you. (rather than say anything to you they come back with loads of your past comments)

P.S Be careful with your use of "capitals letters" you will upset officer Poirot of the etiquette police.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 18 May 2013 7:08:25 PM
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