cohenite,

The denier message just gets more garbled by the moment. Anthony Watts must sit up in bed at nights trawling the depths of his imagination for angles.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/28/stephan-lewandowsky-flees-australia-in-wake-of-investigations/#comment-1290540

to clarify:

http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2013/9330.html

and this must have stretched his creativity somewhat...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/28/lysenkoism-and-global-warming-theory/

Entertaining what!

You're a funny girl Poirot.

Pointman, a real scientist, has a good post about the Lewandowsky's of the world:

http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/the-real-bastards/

cohenite,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Hahaha ... spot on Poirot.

You know, what I find really laughable is when Mr Cox ('fake sceptic' and secretary to an ideological political party) tries to 'slam dunk' a robust peer reviewed statistical analysis by an eminently qualified statistician and has the audacity to assert the experts make elementary errors. Astounding!

What an absolute joke he is.

Mr Cox shows elementary stupidity himself by not understanding the problems with collinearity in multivariate regression analysis (despite this being pointed out to him and despite data and methods being explained) and has the temerity to 'verbal' and claim the experts have said something they in fact haven't.

Not only this, when Mr Cox is challenged - he resorts to ad hominem. This is telling - Mr Cox is just smoke screen and mirror. His OLO fan club appear to have departed - so too do I.

Have fun :)

Poirot, Godwin's law only applies to circumstances where the comparison is improperly made.

Lewandowsky actively describes sceptics as mentally suspect, the first step towards removal of social rights; he is on the same wavelength as people like Hamilton who want to suspend democracy and who encourage civil disobedience.

This is Nazism 101 and Godwin's Law does not apply.

Anyway, I have work to do and I'm sure you want to catch up with the other pixies and Emily listers.

cohenite,

It's becoming increasingly difficult to track the "skeptical" argument. It's all over the place.

One minute it's not warming, the next it is but it doesn't matter (or it's a good thing) or it's preventing the next ice age or causing it, or it's the sun, but it's cooling, etc.....we have the Lord Monckton running around the dominions threatening to have anyone who disagrees with or challenges him reported to the police, advocating the courts for scientists. Next we have a challenge to peer review, endless conspiracy theories....anything it seems but actual science.

Re your Pointman article:

" Why am I telling you these stories? Well, apart from the basic brutality [?], they share a common denominator. All these crimes against humanity were facilitated and made possible because of the co-operation of the more educated professional segments of the populace. The authority figures. They helpfully produced studies and research on minorities, which the state was determined to eliminate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

Victor Venema on peer review.

http://variable-variability.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/value-peer-review-science-press.html