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Should we force fluoride? : Comments

By Emily McAuliffe, published 18/4/2013

Fluoridation is the perfect example of an ethical dilemma, as there are convincing advocates for and against. How do we know who to believe?

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My children have no cavities .

I had a mouthful as a child.

Do we have to debate this issue ?

It is a "no brainer" for floride.

Ralph
Posted by Ralph Bennett, Thursday, 18 April 2013 5:05:09 PM
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The benefits of fluoride were demonstrated both by the decline in dental caries following its introduction and the increase in dental caries as bottled beverages replaced tap water as the drink of choice of young Australia. Just what sort of dental care, apart from fluoride, can actually prevent tooth decay?

There is more evidence of damage caused by dihydrogen monoxide than fluoride.
Posted by Candide, Thursday, 18 April 2013 6:17:06 PM
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In addition to my previous postings:-
REMEMBER, Despite decades of water fluoridation /pollution Australia wide is in dental crisis as is USA after up to 67 years of it.

This Propaganda from Dr. Young IS TOTALLY UNTRUE:- Dr Jeannette Young, Queensland Health, Chief Health Officer said fluoridation was one of the few areas in medicine that was "absolutely black & white" and pointed to Townsville as a prime example."Townsville has had fluoride in its water supply since 1964 & the only difference between Townsville & the rest of the state was that they had far better teeth," she said. "Numerous studies have shown kids in Townsville have between 40-60% less tooth decay."

NOW FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT TOWNSVILLE :- go here > http://fluorideinformationaustralia.wordpress.com/ama-ada-dentists/ada-usa-au-ama/

See documents under Townsville - read everything & take particular note in the Response to claims Townsville fluoridated since 1965 residents have been guinea pigs for fluoridation - note Media Release from Minister for Tourism, Regional Development & Industry Dec. 4, 2007

TOWNSVILLE SCHOOL KIDS TO TRIAL A TREATMENT TO STOP TOOTH ROT ! - water fluoridation/pollution is not effective & it's not safe - (they’ve had water fluoridation/pollution since 1965) and this is in addition to having multiple dental vans visiting the schools & a very lucrative DENTAL INDUSTRY - get the picture?

Townsville Dental Company buys stadium name rights Feb.19, 2013 http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2013/02/19/375754_news.html

then see here >http://fluorideinformationaustralia.wordpress.com/ama-ada-dentists/fluoridation-more-dentists/

Tasmania longest fluoridated/polluted State of Australia - comm.1953 worst dental health & in crisis despite high saturation rate of fluoridation(hazardous waste)- 27th Feb. 2013 - Tasmania will receive an extra $12 million from the Federal Government to reduce public dental waiting lists. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-27/extra-dental-dollars-to-reduce-waiting-lists/4542450?section=tas

The only answer EVER was to provide access to affordable dental health care services for all the population, not the disposal of hazardous waste pollutants and co-contaminants of lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium, etc., from phosphate fertiliser industries (and aluminium smelting industries) (known as water fluoridation, plus aluminium sulphate) into our drinking water supplies and hence also contaminating our food chain and using the populations' kidneys as toxic waste disposal/filtration units.

This Fluoridation Fraud/Fluoridation Dictatorship must end.
Posted by Diane Drayton Buckland, Thursday, 18 April 2013 6:22:25 PM
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Gee Diane, calm down!
Just get yourself a water filter!
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 18 April 2013 7:03:38 PM
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Fluoride should be by choice, take pills if you like toxic waste. I have seen other effects of fluoride on cattle and the locking up of soil minerals that we all need. Superphosphate carries a lot of fluoride and causes bloat in cattle which kills a % every spring also stops mushrooms from forming. All over it is useless for teeth and anyone that says otherwise has been badly misinformed. Big bis. makes money from selling a waste that can not even be dumped at sea. Tasmanian kids have the worst teeth in the nation but have had mind bending fluoride since the early 60ies. Cheers old Bob
Posted by Old Bob, Thursday, 18 April 2013 10:23:02 PM
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>>As far as sodium fluoride being a poison, the answer is that every chemical is poisonous if a sufficient dose is given. However, at the quantities contained in water, there is no evidence of any adverse effects, but plenty of evidence of benefits.<<

Well said.

I looked up some numbers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose

NaF has an LD50 of 52 mg/kg (rats, oral). That makes it less toxic than capsaicin, the molecule that makes chillies hot (47.2 mg/kg). But people eat chillies all the time and nobody gets sick and dies from the capsaicin. That's because although the capsaicin is fairly toxic - more toxic than NaF - the dose you get from even a very hot chilli dish is minute and not dangerous. It's the same with NaF - if you ate a heap of it you'd be in a bit of a pickle but the dose you get from drinking fluoridated water is minute and harmless.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Thursday, 18 April 2013 10:29:04 PM
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