Silly Mayans… they didn't even prophesy the end of their civilisation by 900 A.D.

Though presumably some survivor noticed after it was too late.

hasbeen

There is science and there is garbage. The majority of comments I see on this site are garbage.

You say

“Even the ratbags at the IPCC have claimed that if you double the CO2, you increase the temperature by 0.7c. They have been unable to actually prove this, but no matter.”

Your comment starts out by insulting the hundreds of scientists that took part in the climate review undertaken by the IPCC. You then get the figure wrong for the direct impact of CO2 on the climate (range 0.8 to 1.2 best estimate 1 Deg C)
You then fail to understand that this figure is arrived at by experiment.

You then say

“What they then claim, in an attempt to get a scary enough scenario is that this will generate more water vapor in t6he air, & this water vapor will then increase the temperature further, their positive feed back myth. This is one of their tipping points.”

The facts are that for every 1 deg C increase in temperature we get an increase in water evaporation of 7%. Water vapour being a strong green house this enhances the warming effect. This is actually called a forcing in climate science.
Tipping points have nothing to do with this. A good example of a tipping point is the Arctic sea ice, as ice it reflects 90% of the suns heat back into space but as open water it absorbs 90% of it

Speaking about the end of the world, please read the following: It involves you!

The Condition of Human Rights at the International Setting
By Professor Francis A. Boyle

“Today in international legal terms, the United States government itself should now be viewed as constituting an ongoing criminal conspiracy under international criminal law in violation of the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles, because of its formulation and undertaking of serial wars of aggression, crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, and war crimes that are legally akin to those perpetrated by the former Nazi regime in Germany.

The civil resistors are the sheriffs enforcing international law, U.S. criminal law and the U.S. Constitution against the criminals working for the U.S. government! This same right of civil resistance extends pari passu to all citizens of the world community of states. Everyone around the world has both the right and the duty under international law to resist ongoing criminal activities perpetrated by the U.S. government and its nefarious foreign accomplices in allied governments such as Britain, the other NATO states, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Georgia, Puerto Rico, etc. If not so restrained, the U.S. government could very well precipitate a Third World War.”

Francis Anthony Boyle, an American (born 1950), is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He delivered this speech at the Puerto Rican Summit Conference on Human Rights –December 09, 2012. See ICH for the full text

Tony,

"The southern hemisphere will have its autumnal equinox on March 20th next year."

Of course it will. It serves me right for trying to be a smart ass first thing in the morning. I'm gonna stay in bed late in the future. This early morning gig is strictly for the birds.

Cheers.

Antrhropogenic Climate Change equals HUMAN CAUSED climate change.
No one disputes this.
Therefore the amount of change in climate is roughly proportional to the change in the number of humans.
You can't dispute that logically.
Therefore If women are forced to only have one child per lifetime and men to understand and acknowledge that more than one fruit of their loins is nothing but climate change then climate change will cease.

Although this too is logical the entire populace suddenly turns to VIOLENT opposition.

The problem is that the human limbic system is so hard wired for sexual pleasure in men and reproduction in women that only in the microsecond they feel the bullet to their head or the frizzle of the neutron beam will they accept the TRUTH of Climate Change. But then its too late.

The ONLY alternative hope depends on Green Energy which by the Second Law of Thermodynamics ( You can't lift yourself by your bootlaces) is an impossibility unless backed by infinite coal and oil supplies for mining, manufacture, transport & maintenance issues involved with HARVESTING low density energy scattered over VAST spaces.

As supposedly rational beings its TIME to suck in a little fresh air to the limbic system, see this truth and act responsibly.

Continued,

Continuing..

Further, Population Dynamics and Climate Change Dynamics, change with population.
The reality is very much like the Geiger counter voltage V Counts(population pressure versus climate change incidents) curve:
The counter starts counting at a point corresponding approximately to the Geiger threshold
voltage
from there follows a “plateau" with little change in the counting rate as the voltage (population)increases.
Finally a point is reached where the self-suppressing mechanism no longer works (WAR),
and the counting rate rapidly increases until the counter breaks down into a continuous
discharge (Global Conflict).

Post WWII was low population pressure/voltage due to war losses but now the pressure is dangerously high yet politicians still hark back to the immigration and baby bonus days of the Menzies era.

In order to ensure stable operation, the counter must be operated at a voltage corresponding approximately to the mid-point of the plateau. In analogous population terms this is midway between 2012 and 1945 populations, IE around a 1979 population of 3-4 billion people.

That means women and men must maintain single child families till this population is reached. Then a return to 2 child families could be negotiated to maintain replacement levels.

As things stand All CONCEPTS OF our FUTURE are pure political hubris and selfish intent hiding behind a very flawed concept of DEMOCRACY and a pro-life HUMANITARIANISM that allows & encourages us to use all the resources of the children YOU keep having knowing full well those children will die fighting wars for their share of what's left after You're gone.
My biggest fear is that human beings are so corrupt that they will allow populations to increase,satiate their demands and die putting on a good show of pretending they still care about their children and grandchildren. Surely if there is a HELL thes human PIGS will find it!