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Palestine - hands up those who hate Jews : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/12/2012

These 138 States were effectively signing the eviction notices for 600000 Jews who have been legally living in these areas for up to 40 years pursuant to the rights conferred on the Jewish People.

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It must absolutely gall you to see the unassasinated and unthreatened leader of Hamas moving freely about in Gaza, to know the illegal blockade of Gaza is broken and to see Egypt proclaimed as the regional peacemaker after the recent Israeli defeat in Gaza.

How is this possible?

After all it was Israel's intent to prevent those things and to militarily dominate.

You must see that Israel in fact being seen to fail to protect it's citizens on the back of a few rockets falling on Tel Aviv and Jeruselum and these galling capitulations?
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 8 December 2012 2:27:32 PM
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David Singer

"I could have asked OLO to remove many personally offensive or Jew-hating posts."

Well, you could, but then OLO would be obliged to remove all explicit and implicit Arab-hating comments by Zionists and their supporters. Writing Palestinians as "Palestinians" seems to me to be particularly sinister.

So members of Hamas make anti-semitic remarks--there are numerous anti-Arab racist statements on record by members of the Israeli political elite and I emphasise "elite", apparently their expressed prejudices haven't affected their careers.

stevenmyer,

The issue in question is not statistics but morality. You still haven't identified all those other anti-Semitic remarks you allege have been made by commenters here.

cohenite,

"in a way, therefore, Israel is a proxy for the West, and quite simply those who argue against its existence are in effect arguing against the existence of Western values."

Yes, Western values as they existed more than 100 years ago, you might identify with 19th century style colonialism and racism, I don't.
Posted by mac, Saturday, 8 December 2012 2:52:59 PM
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To the Singer:

You quote, "The League of Nations and the United Nations at its very formation rejected your viewpoint and I hope the vast majority of Australians reject your viewpoint as well."

So here you are, a rabid supporter of a rogue nation that, with U.S. enabling, has continuously ignored numerous resolutions from the U.N. as well as a myriad other aspects of International Law, more so than any other nation in existence.

Such is the extent of your infinite hypocrisy and duplicitous mendacity!

How dare you!
Posted by David G, Saturday, 8 December 2012 3:33:23 PM
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Anthonyve wrote:

>>More than 50% of Palestinian children are suffering from illnesses directly related to nutritional deficiencies which are in turn a direct result of Israeli border control policies.>>

I did a bit of googling. This from the WHO:

>>...50% of infants and young children under two years of age in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip suffer from iron deficiency anaemia which is associated with inappropriate feeding practices for infants and young children, as well as limited access to, or compliance with, micronutrient supplementation…>>

In plain English many Palestinian children (and their mothers) aren't getting enough minerals and vitamins.

I find this puzzling. Mineral and vitamin supplements are freely available, cost cents per day, and can pass freely through border crossings on the Israeli side at least. For the cost of the 400 rockets Iron Dome shot down Hamas could have bought enough supplements for every Palestinian infant under two years of age, and their mothers, for a long time.

What is more I am sure that had Hamas had appealed for help on this matter shiploads of vitamin and mineral pills could have been despatched and if for some reason the Israeli government had declined to let them through the Egyptians could have.

I'm afraid all you've demonstrated, yet again, is that Hamas places a higher priority on killing Jews than on the welfare of Palestinians.

Rockets before vitamins is their policy.

They are true to their charter.

Mac

For what it's worth I do not think you are an anti-Semite.

But here is a test case.

Anthonyve stated that the nutritional deficiencies among Palestinian children is a "direct result of Israeli border control policies."

Plainly this is not the case. Is he prepared to withdraw that allegation?

Knowing that easily remedied vitamin and mineral deficiencies afflict Gaza children do you think it was "immoral" of the Hamas regime not to take action?

Do you think it is "immoral" of the Muslim Brotherhood regime to cooperate with the Israelis in the blockade? (I personally wish the Egyptians would open the Rafah crossing to trade)

*http://apps.who.int/gb/ebwha/pdf_files/WHA65/A65_27Rev1-en.pdf
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 8 December 2012 3:39:25 PM
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Cohenite,
You accuse me of having a lazy mind.
Why am I not surprised by such arrogance?
At least I take the time to understand science
I find there the answers that I need, supported by data and experiment, and so do not need to take intellectual refuge in ancient myths.
You on the other hand are evidently dependent on a book of unknown origins, full of physical impossibilities and contradictions, assembled by people who thought slavery was acceptable.
It requires no intellectual vigor to believe such patent nonsense, merely naivete.
Or, perhaps, an inabilility to confront the void without disolving into terror.
To put it another way, you may keep your opinions of my mind to yourself, thank you very much.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Saturday, 8 December 2012 3:49:36 PM
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Elizann commented: “Every individual has the right to their own religion. Since the time of Abraham, the Jewish religion has had as its very foundation God's promise to their ancestor ‘To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates’".

Zionism is not a religious movement but it is founded firmly on the racist assumption embodied in that vile piece of blasphemous clap-trap, essentially that God has chosen the Jews as “special” in a way that the rest of humanity is not. Leave out that profound insult to the billions of people who worship a God they believe is a lot better than that, and the Zionist claim remains: Goyim are less “special” than Jews.

The world has already had to suffer scores of millions of deaths to repulse the equally arrogant, equally evil claim that “Aryans” are “special” in a way that the rest of the human species is not.

Not only was the Nazi claim of “Aryans” being “special”, with the right to grab “Lebensraum” from their neighbours, as evil as today’s Zionist claim, but their very invention of the mystical “Aryan people” was as unsustainable as the invention of the “Jewish people” (for which Google <Shlomo Sand> and read this Israeli scholar’s book “The invention of the Jewish people” for example).

As a non-believer in God, I personally believe in goodness and am thankful that the racist abomination of Israel is ultimately on the way out. The Third Reich went out the hard way, there’s still time for Eretz Israel to negotiate a comparatively easy way, leaving Jews born in Israel with the same rights there as everyone else.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 8 December 2012 4:20:57 PM
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