To David G

Your offensive suggestion - made on more than one occasion - that I pack up and go and live in Israel - was wisely foreseen by the 51 members of the League of Nations when they approved the terms of the Mandate which contained the following Recital:

"Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country;"

This provision was inserted to deal with precisely the comment made by you.

This provision is still alive today by virtue of Article 80 of the UN Charter.

You and so many other posters continually want to ignore the message and the facts I present to support the message - preferring instead to shoot the messenger by denigrating me personally, suggesting I move and calling on OLO to ban my articles.

I could have asked OLO to remove many personally offensive or Jew-hating posts.

I have never sought to do so.

Such posts expose to public gaze that views such as yours are alive today in Australia telling Australian Jews that if they support the Jewish State then they should pack up and get the hell out of here.

The League of Nations and the United Nations at its very formation rejected your viewpoint and I hope the vast majority of Australians reject your viewpoint as well.

Obama by sacking General Petraeus and 30 other officials you don't know about, has averted a serious conflict with Iran thus bring Russia and China into this conflict.After Libya Russia drew a line in the sand and said no more.The West told Russia that they would not harm Gadaffi but they allowed him to be tortured and murdered.This really angered Vladmir Putin.

Gadaffi was working on a new currency for Africa backed by gold.This would lessened the power of Western fiat currencies.He also had oil and about 130 tonnes of gold.China was there helping them exploit their oil.That's why they invaded Lybia and murdered Gadaffi.

Obama sacked those who were on the side of the Zionists wanting to attack Iran.Obama still has an expanionist policy and a Syrian attack is still on the table.The Zionists put a lot of money into the Romney Presidential bid for no result.

How can Iran be a threat with no nukes and Israel with 200+ nukes, has attacked Lebanon and the Palistinians? Israel has been holding the world to ransom and that is now changing.When Bibi Netanyahu took his picture of a bomb to the UN representing Iran's threat,he was almost laughed out of the meeting.

We don't need a war with Syria or Iran.We don't need a war with China and Russia.

David likes to constantly remind us of the historical facts.
And he is perfectly justified and correct in doing so.
But here is another fact.
More than 50% of Palestinian children are suffering from illnesses directly related to nutritional deficiencies which are in turn a direct result of Israeli border control policies.
If we do not acknowledge that grave injustices are being experienced by both sides then we are little better than the leaders of both Israel and the Palestinians who are unwilling to acknowledge each other's legitimate grievances, which must surely be the first step towards a solution.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Arjay,
I take your point but Zionism isn't always reactionary and like other forms of Nationalism it has factions who are anti globalist and who want only to secure a piece of land where they can live apart from others and according to their own customs and laws. The way the Israeli state behaves is always wilfully (and hypocritically) misrepresented as the be all and end all of Zionism, in particular by the Left, the Socialist and Liberal/Humanist perspective is mired the double standard of preferring Palestinian Nationalism over Jewish Nationalism, hence the charge of anti Semitism. Socialists and Liberal Humanists are the most vocal elements ins the BDS movement but in reality they're no more interested in the idea of a Palestinian nation than they are an English, Italian, or Swedish nation. They're just another arm of the NWO as you call it. and they're bent on and the destruction from the top down of every viable nation, Israel is just the next in line to be forced into "multiculturalism" and open borders for the sake of these universal ideals.

Thank you for the article David, and thanks for publishing it Graham despite the post-Finkelstein attitudes of the 'progressives' who take umbrage at any pro-Israel article.

The confusion amongst the 'progressives' is due, apart from their stupidity, their inability to distinguish between freedom of religion and the greater freedom to be free of the oppression of people having their freedom of expression.

The usual Zionist plots have been dredged up here as though Israel wants to conquer the world; it doesn't; it wants to protect its national integrity against the brazen and continual hostility by the Islamist nations around them.

This is to be compared with the continually declared intention by islam that it wants to conquer the world.

Israel, despite having its own home-grown religious nutters, is by and large a democratic society predicated on indivdual rights.

There is no such creature in islam.

In a way, therefore, Israel is a proxy for the West, and quite simply those who argue against its existence are in effect arguing against the existence of Western values.

cohenite,
I just do not accept that logic.
Positioning Israel as a proxy for the west is a sensible strategy for Israel and its supporters but that doesn't make it the truth.
When it's all said and done, this is about land.
As long as the negotiations are dragged out, then Israel is free to, sq metre by sq metre, via settlements, reduce the amount of land available for an eventual Palestinian state.
So, it's in Israel's best interests to always promise to negotiate and to never actually move forward with negotiation.
Also, you make a general and derogatory statement about Islam.
Now, I'm an agnostic so all religions are equally silly in my view, but let me ask you this:
If I were to make a general and derogatory statement about Judaism, would you call me an anti Semite?
I think there's just the tiniest possibility that your answer would be yes.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au