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Palestine - hands up those who hate Jews : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/12/2012

These 138 States were effectively signing the eviction notices for 600000 Jews who have been legally living in these areas for up to 40 years pursuant to the rights conferred on the Jewish People.

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It's taken awhile, but finally Runner can take it no more, he has emerged from his bigoted 'hell', oops, I mean hole!

If we are going to talk about anti-Semitics, how about we look at the real history, the current anti-Semitism we see today is really based on hatred by the Zionists against the Arabs; this is still anti-Semitic no matter which way you look at it.

Singer is lost in his on miasma and will continue to post his evil intent no matter what the rest of the world has woken up to.

Go luck, David, you are going to need it, and then some.

Welcome to the UN, which you oft quote from, and the reality of politics, history and social conscience of the true peoples of the world in 2012!
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Saturday, 8 December 2012 9:46:03 PM
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'he has emerged from his bigoted 'hell', oops, I mean hole! '

really Geoff. In actual fact I am living in a very blessed state. Sorry to disappoint you.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 8 December 2012 9:52:44 PM
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No apology needed "Runner", may your blessed state continue to blind you to reality.

Religion is for weak people who require an excuse from some 'book' and 'mantra' that let's them speak of evil and proffer a blighted sense of reality and those things we normally keep hidden from 'others'.

David Singer is of your ilk.

I prefer to let science and those doing 'verifiable' science flood my brain with reality.

If you prefer a pre-constructed, bigoted, blind and irrational fantasy to reality that is your problem, not mine.

I do not hate anyone, I despise laziness and those who use a bigoted sense of history and truth as a mantra to gain an upper hand and as such, I despise Zionism. Truth matters and history is always, in most cases, revealed for what is truly revealed as the then fantasy.

Unfortunately for David, reality is starting to catch up rather quickly and he is struggling with his fervent belief in the "Torah fantasy" to satisfy his ingrained, myopic view of history.

Likewise "Runner", you should learn to think independently and stop following a book and prophet that has clearly been shown to be based on 'fantasy'.

Have a great weekend, Geoff
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Saturday, 8 December 2012 10:17:02 PM
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Mr Singer,

Quote: “This particular article fully confirms what I have stated in my article.”

Don’t flatter yourself. Yours is not an article. It is an opinion piece, published on an online opinion website. OLO is so named for a reason.

Firstly, While it may suit your argument to select quotes from the Jerusalem Post (in or out of context), your source is hardly reputed to be an unbiased broadsheet, rather a widely acknowledged right-wing publication. I suggest you broaden your reading material.

Secondly, to counter your quote of PLO President Abbas, there is this direct quote from Abbas’ speech to the UN in September this year and more relevant to your opinion piece (and yet, somehow you managed to miss it):

“In our endeavor, we do not seek to delegitimize an existing State - that is Israel; but rather to assert the State that must be realized - that is Palestine.”

Well, no wonder you didn’t include it – it flies directly in the face of your myopic view that Palestinians seek only to ‘wipe Israel off the map’ and counters the very foundation of your opinion piece.

Thirdly, 138 out of 193 votes (not including the abstentions) is, by any standards, a clear majority. Israel's government is losing support. The Jewish people are not. See the difference?

Fourthly, please do not quote UN Articles and charters to support your argument when they suit and then denounce the UN when it acts in any way contrary to your goals. That is the height of hypocrisy.

Fourthly, do not play the anti-Semitic card when discussing politics. It is a cheap, over-used and highly abused gambit. If Israel’s policies cannot stand on their own merit (without resorting to calls of anti-semitism) then their merit is rightly questioned.

Finally, Israel’s announcement of further settlements in East Jerusalem is a huge mistake, illegal by international standards and, much like your own stance on the Palestinian issue, symptomatic of why there will never be a peaceful resolution to the problem.
Posted by scribbler, Sunday, 9 December 2012 6:59:31 AM
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Just imagine if the Israeli government announced it was withdrawing to its original borders, encouraging Jewish West Bank settlers to return to Israel if they choose not to live in the new state of Palestine and the international community united to ensure the security of both Israel and Palestine....and Jerusalem became an independent 'Holy City' precious to the three Abrahamic faiths and governed as such.
Posted by Candide, Sunday, 9 December 2012 7:30:20 AM
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To #scribbler

You state:
"While it may suit your argument to select quotes from the Jerusalem Post (in or out of context), your source is hardly reputed to be an unbiased broadsheet, rather a widely acknowledged right-wing publication."

The Jerusalem Post was not my source. It was supplied by #csteele.

I thanked #csteele for bringing it to my attention to confirm the contents of my article that Abbas wants all Jews out of the West Bank - and he made that clear by twice repeating it in this one interview.

I could indeed have quoted Abbas's statement at the UN as evidence of his continuing refusal to recognize Israel as the Jewish State at the very same time as he was urging UN members to recognise the Palestinian Arabs right to a State in 100% of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Imagine the impact if he had said:

“In our endeavor, we do not seek to delegitimize an existing State - that is the Jewish State of Israel; but rather to assert the State that must be realized - that is Palestine.”

That could have been a real circuit breaker.

Anyway like the comment by #csteele - many thanks for your comment which has given me a possible idea for an article dealing with the hypocrisy and deception inherent in Abbas's statement quoted by you when compared to what the PLO and Hamas Charters explicitly state.

Yes - 138 votes is indeed a clear majority - but majorities are not always right.

I have argued it was a gross error of judgement - like the Zionism is Racism resolution passed by the same General Assembly in 1975 and subsequently revoked by it in 1991.

I believe this present decision needs to also be reversed if there is to ever be any hope of reconciliation between Jews and Arabs - and I have given you four reasons why.

Hopefully it will not take the General Assembly 16 years to wake up and reverse the damage this resolution has done to resolving the Jewish-Arab conflict.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 9 December 2012 9:43:52 AM
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