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Palestine - hands up those who hate Jews : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/12/2012

These 138 States were effectively signing the eviction notices for 600000 Jews who have been legally living in these areas for up to 40 years pursuant to the rights conferred on the Jewish People.

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Well said Danielle, they won't believe because they are antisemites.

SAY WHAT? ANTI-SEMITES? WHO, US ANTI-ZIONISTS?
By Steven Plaut

Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? US? We have nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such. Heavens to Mergatroyd. Marx Forbid. We are humanists. Progressives. Peace lovers.

Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism and Israeli policies. The two have nothing to do with one another. Venus and Mars. Night and Day. Trust us.
Sure, we think the only country on the earth that must be annihilated is Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure, we think that the only children on earth whose being blown up is ok if it serves a good cause are Jewish children. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure we think that if Palestinians have legitimate grievances this entitles them to mass murder Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Naturally, we think that the only people on earth who should never be allowed to exercise the right of self-defense are the Jews. Jews should only resolve the aggression against them through capitulation, never through self-defense. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We only denounce racist apartheid in the one country in the Middle East that is NOT a racist apartheid country. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We refuse to acknowledge the Jews as a people, and think they are only a religion. We do not have an answer to how people who do NOT practice the Jewish religion can still be regarded as Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Read on
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/oct03/plaut1.htm
Posted by SF, Saturday, 15 December 2012 7:32:15 PM
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If they were truly concerned about human right issues, surely we have our indigenous peoples to consider. But I surmise that the Palestinian issue is far safer and far more distant, and thereby more comfortable, than issues in our own backyard.

In 2005 Israel withdraw entirely from Gaza. Instead of seeing Israel's departure as a good-will gesture, a contribution to peace, Hamas began their rocket attacks into Israel. Over 2,000 rockets this year alone.

No wonder Israel is hesitant to withdraw its security from the West Bank. This is a rational decision, a decision that would be made by any country in Israel's position.

Any group firing rockets, and constantly so, into another territory would expect retaliation. Israel has retaliated. More Gazans died than Israelis. Apparently, to make this conflict fair, there must be an equal number of Israeli deaths.

Israel has bomb shelters, school desks reinforced with iron, and systems of air-sirens. Without these, many, many Israelis would have died in Hamas rocket attacks.

Hamas has waged seven years of ongoing rocket attacks into Israel. Those of rational mind would think it strange that during this time Hamas built not one bomb shelter, nor set up air-raid sirens for the populace in Gaza. This is especially curious, as Israel always forewarn by leaflets and phone calls into target territory of impending attacks.

Why no bomb-shelters, bunkers or at least air-raid sirens? This can only be seen as deliberate - a cynical means to use death and injury of the populace to obtain more sympathy for the Hamas cause and, importantly, propaganda against Israel.

Those who followed the Palestinian civil war and the atrocities committed against fellow-countrymen would identify such thinking as par for the course. In the first ten months of that war, more Palestinians had been killed by other Palestinians than in conflicts with Israel.

As to the much condemned blockade of goods into Gaza, this appears to be much flawed. Hamas have no problems getting stockpiles of rockets, armaments through it.
Posted by Danielle, Saturday, 15 December 2012 7:42:48 PM
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They hate Israel and get their facts are wrong because they post from questionable sources.

Israel withdrew unilaterally from Gaza for peace after the rise of Hamas in 2005. From 1967 when Israel took Gaza from Egypt until 2000/2001 life in Gaza was good Jews and Arabs lived together no problem, like they do in Israel now.

Since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, terrorists have fired more than 8,000 rockets into Israel. Over one million Israelis are currently living under threat of rocket attacks. In 2011 alone, 630 rockets from Gaza hit Israeli towns. That’s an even higher number than in 2010, when 231 rockets hit Israel. Since 2001, more than 12,800 rockets and mortars, an average of 3 attacks every single day, have landed in Israel.

It’s funny really. The last time it looked as if Abbas might make a peace deal with Israel and it looked like Israeli Arabs would have to be under the authority of the PLO, there was a mad rush for Israeli citizenship. They know they have the right to vote, the right to free schooling, the right to free health care and more.

We know there are no bomb shelters in Gaza, because Hamas won’t allow it. Instead they fire their rockets from residential areas and when Israel drops leaflets and sends text messages for the civilian population to move from the area, Hamas won’t let them

It’s well documented there are no shortages of anything in Gaza except concrete because that is used for tunnels. There are 5 star hotels, spa/health resorts, huge house, night club and more.

They also do not understand that when they single out Israel as the only county in the ME for condemnation, that is antisemitism. That folks is the EU definition of antisemitism. Antisemitism is racism, as Jews are a racially ethnic group.
I think this is my last post for the day too. Stupid rule !!
Posted by SF, Saturday, 15 December 2012 8:08:06 PM
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