Poirot,

thanks for being bipartisan. Us blokes must be a bunch of misogynists, despite trying to be reasonable, otherwise why are the ladies staying away in droves? Apart from Killarny, of course, who sees through our reasonableness.

Thanks for the heads up about Houllie, RObert. I for one support his ambitions to be a mother. I remember when I was a single mum myself, with four littlies to look after--everybody seemed to think I should get a job, unless I was prepared to get a sex reassignment (the doctor advised such a MASSIVE operation was too risque).
Anyway, the revelations about Houllie got me thinking about that Monty Python sketch; as always, eminently reasonable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUBAx8jbYNs

Squeers,

Thanks for the Python clip : )

You know, I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to take some of the credit for all of you ratbags finally finding your feminine side. It's been a long road since I arrived on OLO to a horde of macho, beer-swilling brutes, revving your engines and calling me "wench".

....but, HARK!, I'm hearing lullabys, and smelling the aroma of talc and freshly dried linen......

.....where was I? Oh yes, jolly good show, boys. I'll never feel the dearth of female company again on this forum now that all you mothers have found your true calling in life.

: )

Why not take all the credit, Poirot?

Anyways now that we're all agreed that Houellebecq is a real mother... I am concerned lest he also become a 'victim'.

How he copes with the stretch marks will be a guide.

That's not fair Squeers. Here I was thinking I was funny and Python did it years ago. Way to steal my thunder. I have yet to have someone successfully argue how it's any different from the Gay marriage issue though.

I've been desperate to re-brand myself Trev from Killarney's 'male priveledge', to be a downtrodden martyr of society.

I would love nothing more to be a member of the virtuous gender, a victim in every social context, free of any responsibility (It's the Patriarchy's fault), free of all that origial sin male guilt for the sins of men throughout the ages. Still, it's an easy position for the feminist to take, boiling down as it does to if women had the reins all these years, it would all have been so much better. I Love a woulda coulda shoulda.

The great feminist bedtime story; If women (aka the virtuous gender) had had the chance, the world would be so so rosy, well the angels would look like dirty slappers compared to how wholesome things were on Earth.

There's no way men could give birth. They'd do one of two things. Either be macho and tough it out until someone dies (The Gyno, midwife, wife and the baby), or take so many drugs that the baby would be a retard. We don't do moderation so well.

I can envisage Stallone doing his own c-section in movies.

As always, I'm half serious, with that mother thing. Don't you think Mothers get more kudos in the child rearing and nurturing stakes? Why is empty gay marriage symbolism more worthy than my request?

I'm a bloody good mother! I even 'juggle' and tell people I'm 'time poor', I only get 10 hours out of 24 due to my unconventional experience of so-called reality. I just love adverts that appeal to 'Busy Mums'. I want that so much. I want to be a martyr too!

Ah, to sit back, know nothing is your fault, that you're the victim, and that being called a bitch is conflated with being raped in articles like this.

Now I've heard it all:)

KELP...said:)...."Can the people who believe in LOVE, Santa, Easter bunny & tooth fairy stop clogging up this forum."......lol....if one was to take those 5 factors out of our earthly equations.....just call on JayB:)....He doesn't like lies either:)....lol...please!..:0 think of the children:)......

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Squeers,

I'm intrigued at your doctor's advice that your MASSIVE operation was too "risque" - rather than "risky"....or is that a silkily fine Freudian slip you're wearing under that manly facade?