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The politics of naming: victims, survivors and plain dead women : Comments
By Jocelynne Scutt, published 1/6/2012The expression 'victim feminism' is attributed to Naomi Wolf and relies upon defining women as diametrically different from men.
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Posted by plant3.1, Friday, 8 June 2012 8:05:02 AM
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Geranium,
From my understanding, hunter-gatherer societies still had social rules, passed on from men to boys, women to girls, and education via the same methods, with the most skilled doing most of the teaching. Also, there would generally have to be leaders - a top man or woman - and my understanding is that there is always a top woman, even if not the designated 'boss' of the group, but without whose (this alpha-female's) agreement almost anything other than strictly men's business would have to be rethought. When you think about it, female concurrence in decision-making (not subservience or mere acquiescence) was essential to the wellbeing of any group, and it is the automatic recognition and application of this 'rule' which seems to have taken a bit of a back seat in parts of our culture, and which is in some need of a 're-balancing'. Sure, female suffrage was a start, and the feminist movement a continuation, but we have not yet achieved the full restoration of this most fundamental of 'balances'. Unfortunately though, the absence of this automatic balance appears to have induced some feminists to perhaps take a leap too far - quite understandable of course, given the fragmented nature of our modern culture. We have unfortunately almost totally lost the closeness and comfort of 'community' or 'tribe', and now have to rely on a group of friends and acquaintances - or 'work-group' - to fill this void. Barely adequate really, but it is all we have. I guess the industrial revolution has a lot to answer for, as far as family and community relations are concerned. Posted by Saltpetre, Friday, 8 June 2012 8:22:21 PM
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Flower pot/David......I have only one song for all of mankind, Iam sure there are a whole lot more. Bob Marley just before he died. I think it raps it up for what I've been saying.....:)
http://tinyurl.com/crpkz8x The Transnationals of the human race.... it cant of been that hard, or maybe it was. E Posted by plant3.1, Sunday, 10 June 2012 7:20:34 PM
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With out love, what are you?
"From my understanding, hunter-gatherer societies still had social rules.....yes they did, and what happen to them? Whats in my heart should be in all:) http://tinyurl.com/6pdshg5 Humans have not far to go:) Continued tomorrow. cc Posted by plant3.1, Sunday, 10 June 2012 10:42:18 PM
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Saltpetre...with-in the hunter and gatherers society, the rules were governed by the numbers that dictated the harmony within the groups. Now days, we still have the groups, but only of the waring type. Example...with our caveman mentality, those rules now don't apply, and instead of harmony with-in our species, our numbers are now working against us. The cure for this and all we see (IMO) is simple. If one was to winde back all our numbers, all the problems that affect one,s day to day lives which in just watching the amount of stress and divorce rates, reducing the amount of people can only be the cure. If the lead up to 7 billion was the cause, the answer has to be the opposite. Men and Women worked very well in smaller numbers and the facts are there for all to see. Before religion, humans worked equally as well with religion, until the numbers invented new extremists which again, proves the whole point to all of us today.
Iam not going to rattle on too much since I cant put 30 years of study here with-in 350 word limits. Its the global numbers that makes us feel this way....Like I said...if we started with the hunters and gatherers numbers, then the numbers grew (with-in the industrial rev as you pointed out) to go forward with the facts any-more, would just be insane. Women and men or Men and women which ever way you like, can see every day what stresses them and what stresses you and all.(the planet as well) http://tinyurl.com/cqhz9gc These hunter and gatherers will show what happen when numbers where dictated before more modern cultures tried to show the new ways of prosperity with thinking more is better:) Now what do you think Flower pot:) These times will haunt us all in time. Reverse is the only answer. cc Posted by plant3.1, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 1:31:40 PM
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Common flower pot:)...there comes a time to move on....religion in-clued. "Man can not live on bread alone":)...even you know that.
RIP....CJ morgan. cc Posted by plant3.1, Sunday, 1 July 2012 3:45:30 AM
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Oh and just before I wonder off else-where, I'd like to fix your little mistake.
(club in hand dragging their newest mate to the Cave by the hair.)
Must of been those Neanderthals you mentioned earlier, but I doubt they did it either. I'll stick to my hunter and gathering ancestry.....its a little less violent:)
......"warlike groups of people who were not hunter-gatherers".....you may of watched too much Fred Flintstone...lol....
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