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Why I decided not to move in with my girlfriend : Comments

By Bernard Toutounji, published 9/5/2012

The cohabiting couple make the subliminal statement to each other that 'I don't need to be married to you to have sex with you'.

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The man who had the worst problems in the bedroom was an extremely devout person who married a girl from his church. Both of them were "virgins". They both needed counselling before they could do any sex at all (mostly due to the woman's rejection), and the wedding night was a non-goer.

The man sounded as if he was sexually average/normal, but his wife treated him as if he might be carrying an STD or be a rapist of some kind, despite the fact he was as clean as a whistle in every way.

The woman was largely insane, and used sex to manipulate him. I won't go into all of the details of their bedroom issues. Suffice to say, I was very surprised that they managed to have any children at all, let alone 2.

There are some very inhibited people around. I think the vast majority could be women. I'm sure there must be some absolute perverts as well, but so far no one has complained about having married one (male or female).

There are also some who think that when "the thrill of the chase" is over, they need to find a new thrill to chase outside of the marriage relationship.

I have known relationships to end when the man or woman decided he/she preferred a same-sex coupling. (Maybe the sex was bad.)
Posted by Lorikeet, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 8:26:45 AM
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Another further to… "When a couple come together in purity, having previously kept themselves for their wedding night, they have the opportunity to grow in intimacy together, starting from that same beginning point."

Is this an exclusionary sexual position for you, Dan S Merengue? In other words, do you think it impossible for a couple not having previously kept themselves for their wedding night, to grow in intimacy together?

And what of the couple, though coming together in purity, who discover that despite this opportunity the only thing growing between them is remoteness?

Different people – different needs.

This was the problem with Bernard's article… Instead of merely telling us why he made the decisions he did, he classified everybody who didn't act the same as being socially evil.
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 9:21:22 AM
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An interesting bit of stereotyping, Dan.
“There is no point matching a person who is very inhibited with someone who is outrageously uninhibited (or even perverted). People who wish to behave like animals in a bedroom should not be matched with uptight cherubs.”

Why do you assume the 'outrageously uninhibited' one must be male?
One of the most outrageously uninhibited girlfriends I have had the pleasure of knowing was my first; and yes we were both virgins. Our breakup was for entirely other reasons than sex, BTW.
I have also known some rather inhibited women. I was always surprised at how little encouragement they needed to lose those inhibitions, quite frankly.
It seemed to me that their inhibitions, far from being inherent, were largely due to perceived expectations about what it meant (in our rather repressive society) to be 'a nice girl'.
To come back to the question of children, I would suggest they are the probably the only reason the vast majority of marriages still occur.
My own marriage was impelled by a humiliating event my wife endured when an overprotective preschool wouldn't allow her to pick up her own daughter, because they didn't share the same surname.
Posted by Grim, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 9:30:58 AM
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Grim, did you mean Lorikeet? Cherubs might be angels but they were usually shown as male in renaissance paintings...
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 9:45:12 AM
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Yeah, I didn't say that all of the inhibited or uninhibited persons were male or female.

This is not the only topic thread on which other people's opinions are being attributed to me, after I have answered only a single element of someone's argument e.g. on the drug discussion.

I know a woman who married someone she considered to be a pervert, simply because he masturbated on their wedding night (in the bathroom with the door closed) when she was having her period.

Yes, she sounds fairly uptight, but she wasn't wrong about him being a pervert. The marriage ended right after she caught him interfering with her 2 year old son in the bathroom.
Posted by Lorikeet, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:16:22 AM
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Thanks Grim,
I think Lorikeet's follow up post shows that we were both thinking along the same lines. However I'm happy for you to switch it around for me as the case may be, make it vice versa.
Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:32:08 AM
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