Haaahahahaha! You mob crack me up!

Beeny you’re a bunny if you are going to keep insisting that climate change is not real or not anthropogenic.

You can’t assert that! You just don’t know. No one knows for absolute certain. But the weight of evidence is strongly on the side of very significant anthropogenic global warming.

In the face of such uncertainty, the pertinent thing to do is to err on the side of caution, well and truly. It is just absurd, bizarre and ridiculous to blunder on in the same old ever-increasingly overconsumptive manner, and let our whole society remain utterly dependent on fossil fuels.

But as I’ve said to you numerous times in the past, Even if it isn’t, we should still be doing our damnedest to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels, first and foremost oil, for sustainability reasons, in the face of peak oil and a constantly growing global demand and declining ability to make supply meet that demand.

You agree with me that population growth is a major global concern. You agree that we should be striving for a sustainable society and planet. But you denounce AGW and any efforts to reduce our use of fossil fuels. It just doesn’t compute!

Ludwig -- the best possible evidence for 'very significant anthropogenic global warming' would be global warming. Without that, you've got nothing.

And you haven't got that for the last fifteen years, during which time CO2 levels have been going gangbusters.

I hope to be around for another thirty years or so, and I confidently expect the few remaining alarmists in 2142 to be telling us that forty-five years of no warming just isn't enough to allow us to conclude it's not happening. We need forty-six, or forty-seven, or....

Jon J, is it really that painful for you to see the long term trend?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

Bonmot, that graph puts it very nicely.

Jon J, what about the other points in my last post?

It really doesn’t matter if climate change is real or not. We should be doing just the same sort of stuff regardless, yes?

Bonmot; You're are right; the trend line ambient temperatures have been very steadily rising, since the industrial revolution, with the last decade, the warmest on record. [CSIRO.]
Of course we need to stop burning fossil fuels, or at least offset the emission they create, just for sound economic reasons; and or the increasing impact of peak oil and the economy destroying price hikes.
After all, every western style economy rests on just two pillars, energy and capital; and, excessive cost flow ons; [and excessive debt,] in either, can and will wreck most western style economies!
Therefore, we can expect another European Great Depression by as soon as 2016, with all that that implies for the Chinese economy/growth; and in turn, its impact on us, with our now excessive dependence on Chinese economic growth.
Were we well led, we would by now be almost totally self suffient in locally supplied alternative fuel and energy, which can and ought to be supplied for a lot less than we currently pay!
Who then would choose to keep using the older dirty fuels; and, which major or emerging economy would refuse to follow our much more pragmatic less costly example?
Algae absorb twice their bodyweight in Co2 emission; and, under optimised conditions double that bodyweight every 24 hours! 100 tons today, would therefore; be 200 tons tomorrow and able to absorb 400 tons of Co2 emission; and 800 the day after; and so on, just as long as the nutrient flow was also doubled, not a big ask given the billions of tons of bio-waste, we humans regularly flush annually into our oceans, with disastrous consequences for the marine environment.
Some algae are amongst the most nutritious and complete foods on the planet, others, the more toxic varieties; are up to 60% oil; and, very easily extracted as a virtually ready to use bio-diesel! Algae can be grown utilising borrowed waste water which can then be returned to the environment, cleaned of all problematic nutrients and pathogens! Cheers, Rhrosty.

- the research is going well.
bonmot,
that's great to hear. How much have you discovered by now & how much are we paying for what you haven't found yet ?
By your own admission you're good at maths so it shouldn't take that long to give us the figures already in the books.