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Excess is followed by collapse - learning from history : Comments

By Valerie Yule, published 30/3/2012

The history of empires and nations has been that excess is followed by collapse. How can we avoid the same fate?

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Oh sorry Tony their were so many emissions back then that climate change brought down Rome!

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/22/133143758/could-climate-change-have-led-to-the-fall-of-rome
Posted by runner, Sunday, 1 April 2012 7:13:31 PM
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See ya.
bonmot,
typical academic when cornered.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 1 April 2012 9:34:23 PM
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@ "typical academic when cornered."

Individual, if you want to engage in dialogue about "porn" and people "bumming each other" that is your choice.

Quite frankly, I choose not to.
Posted by bonmot, Sunday, 1 April 2012 10:04:51 PM
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bonmot,

Good call.

The thread degenerates into a farcical dialogue about 'bumming' and you are called out because you choose not to engage.

"typical academic when cornered"....laughable!
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 1 April 2012 10:18:30 PM
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>>their were so many emissions back then that climate change brought down Rome!<<

Seems unlikely to me. But not as unlikely as it collapsing because they were too all busy bumming each other to maintain their civilisation. I think it was actually mostly the barbarians.

>>because they were all bumming each other<<

Really? I have been reading the wrong history books haven't I? Obviously mine have been heavily censored to make them more palatable to people with regrettably Victorian sexual mores like bonmot because they tend to focus on boring things like wars and epidemics and natural disasters whilst neglecting the anal sex. Where can I get one of these raunchy history books with a full and graphic account of the rampant homosexuality prevalent in Mesoamerican cultures prior to Spanish colonization?

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Sunday, 1 April 2012 10:34:03 PM
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Thanks for your reply Jon J.

We do have the most enormous disagreement. I am very strongly against just leaving it to the free market. That would mean business as usual – just allowing things to go on as they always have, until we are forced into change. It would mean no planning ahead.

We definitely need strong government-implemented regulation. Not world government but sensible long-term planning from governments the world over.
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 2 April 2012 8:51:20 AM
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