All good stuff, Valerie. But you haven’t mentioned the P factor – population.

This is surprising as I know you are very concerned about continuous population growth.

Addressing the A and T factors (affluence and technology) without addressing the P factor, on the global scale and the Australian national scale, will simply NOT work.

I’m referring to Paul Ehrlich’s famous equation – I = PAT, where I is the overall impact on the planet, environment, resource base and our quality of life.

We need a complete sustainability strategy, not a ‘technofix’ pseudosolution!

<< We have to do these things ourselves. Governments dare not presume to dictate or even suggest. >>

Can’t agree with that. We need to strongly support those rare people in government – Bob Carr and Kelvin Thomson - who are on the right track, and just push really hard to get government at all levels to take up a real sustainability plan.

Afterall, the government is part of ‘us’.

...Val, be careful, age is the poisonous insect of time with a stinging tail. Nice people such as yourself also fall victim to the excesses of cynicism.

Perhaps our greatest excess, Valerie, is that of the fools, who can't understand the math, & won't read what is available, but who still believe in & promote climate change.

Perhaps it is in all those people who not understand, but run around promoting that which they don't understand.

Perhaps it is those who have never produced a single thing in their lives, but continue to see themselves as superior beings.

Perhaps, as Ludwig continually insists, it is those who continue to fill the landscape with kids. I might actually agree there.

Perhaps it is in the gravy train of the United Nations, & all the hangers on that the corruption support.

It is definitely in those who do not have a clue, but continue to pontificate as if they actually do.

Hasbeen,

"It is definitely in those who do not have a clue, but continue to pontificate as if they actually do."

Oh the irony!

How's your math Poirot?

What are your qualifications in one (or more) of the areas of climate science, Hasbeen?