Why am I not surprised to see the usual bunch of conspiracy theorists and wannabe sceptics refer or link to their pet ideological hate or favourite shock-jock MSM outlet?

YuYu
Very well let go to the keeper - too hard I suspect.

Peter Hume and other non believers please read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850

David

Come on Yuyutsu, you know he's right about the bicycle riders. Most of them are town planners, so doubly cursed.

Bonmot, it's time to get off the train mate. You'll have to admit to yourself your lack of sound judgement in picking the wrong team, but it is time.

It's been a great & profitable ride, but the train is heading for a major crash, very soon, & those left on it, too greedy to get off perhaps, are going to drown in all the spilled gravy.

Do jump now, before it's too late.

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Hope you'll excuse me for "playing the man" in this instance, but I was curious about just how much credibility Christopher Monckton can claim on this or any other issue.

I note he is referring to himself in this article from Santa as (clever) "Lord Monckton"...and "His Lordship".
According to this epistle from the UK Clerk of Parliament, he is not and never has been a member of the House of Lords.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

His scientific credentials appear just as nebulous, as he's often challenged by fellow skeptics as well as scientists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/sep/21/climate-scientists-christopher-monckton

Surely we're entitled to question the credibility of the author when his article is the point of departure for discussion.

I'll just add that I agree with others here that merely taxing carbon seems just another way of creating a new market without tackling our excess consumption.

Peter, You'll be thrilled to learn that the eurozone has voted to further centralise power to Brussels over member countries taxing and borrowing capacity.

Interesting times.

the sky is falling
the ozone hole is expanding

you all gonna get birdflue
no your going to get bird/swine huh-man hybreed flue
get ya shots eh wot?

the year 2k bug will kill ya globe
your goiong to get mad dog mad cow diss ease

im sick of the spin
''Put another way, whilst I certainly don't believe
in human induced catastrophic global warming - the consequences of global warming even at 2 degrees C by 2100 will be serious enough.""

yep two degrees
so whats this 2 degres mean?

so if its going to be zero
instead its minus 2 degrees

or if its gonna be 50 degrees
its going to be 52 degrees

[with high humidity or low humidity]
with wind..or without

in the shade [under a tree]
or in the middle of that black asphelt car park

on the face of the reef
or reglecting off black ice or white ice

so whats the rule re ice melting
heat is taken in..or given out

so where is the heat taken in comming from
does this relate to the upconmming cooling period
[ie..if it wasnt going to go through its cooling phase
would it have ben 4 degrees..not 2?]

or how about the difference between winter temp..near zero
and summer at 50 degree

thats a 25 fold increase over and abouve the 2 degree

its spin folks
a way to say the sky is falling again
so we gotta tax you to death..so you dont suffer a long slow death

and heck we gotta build a spaceship at dubi
to escape to the moon...[its made of cheez
just give us more tax

we gotta bailout the bank
by borrowing it from bankers
so we can tax you..to repay perpetual intrest

and a capitalist cash cow..that bids up
for nice extra bonus..the price of ya carbon credit

6 dollars a ton today...
to 60,000 a ton tomorrow
then betting others money..to bet it goes up
without even having to own a signle carbon credit