*Most women in the porno industry also have drug and alcohol problems, and sexually transmitted diseases and violence are rife.
I wouldn't want that for anyone's daughter.*

Suze, I'd venture to guess that your perception of the world has
more to do with your English/Australian/Victorian background, then
anything.

Australians inherited all that from the Victorian school, where women
were meant to chew an apple and think of England and sex was
dealt with, with the lights out and seldom talked about.

I spent a couple of years in my late teens living in Paris and more
time in other parts of Central Europe, where people were far less
inhibited about sex. Alot of them frankly could not care if they
were filmed having sex or not. Its why the Swedes, the Danes and
the Dutch made so much money out of the industry.

Who bought all their products? People who lived in countries
with a prude attitude to sex, like the English, Australians, Arabs,
Americans and all the rest.

There are some very uninhibited people in the world, clearly you
are not one of them. Fair enough, that is your cultural background.
That does not make your perception of the porn industry in any way
correct however.

You'd be surprised how many Lawyers and Doctors are on drugs man.

There is no such thing any more as an accident or act of stupidity for which one should just shut up in embarasment and be more careful next time.

In regards to the agonizing over different tastes in porn, I don't have any problem with any porn as long as there is consent. Whatever floats your boat. I think it's silly to assume that people value their sexual expereince as something at all connected to their core being or soul. Sure, fine, if that's you, that's you, but if someone is happy with using their sexual and communication skills to get money, how is that any different from being a Hairdresser?

This fixation people have with nudity and sex is irrational and something we should move past and evolve from as humans. I think as a society that's where we should go; Where sex is thought of as a bodily function like eating. Sex and emotion need not have anything to do with each other. I think a stable upbringing would be more possible in these days of long life expectancy if we moved away from this ego-protecting monogamy. We should, as a society, look to embolden the ego to a point where monogamy is not at all necessary for long lasting relationships and public sex and nudity is commonplace and accepted.

I think we're getting there. Advertising is full of quite erotic imagery that nobody looks twice at a lot of the time. The more we saturate the world with sex, the more blase people can become and the hangups will eventually be overcome.

We can and should look forward to a world where people wander around naked and ask strangers for sex at the bus stop, and a polite refusal or acceptance occurs and there are no hard feelings either way.

'Fancy a shag?' should be as common as 'do you have a light?'. Service stations will have a display cabinet of sex toys and Cinemas will have a screen at the front and the back.

@Ammonite

As I said in that original post, I too don't think all pornography is brilliant nor free from bad, even abhorrent messages. The point is more that I don't see how you can paint all pornography with the same brush. Only the religious seems to make such a broad argument. Obvious examples that should be acceptable to the author (as 'not a religious nut'), are a sexy story someone writes to his partner to get them excited before they next see each other, or a video a couple shoot together to get them excited in the future and to learn about each other and remind themselves of their youth in the future. I would argue both are pornography. The question then becomes one of scale and production, rather than all pornography being inherently evil.

Most people will find that there are plenty of genres of pornography that do absolutely nothing for them. Most because the particular proclivities they cater to are not their own. Others because there is a clear problem with the production.

The clearest example of this is child pornography. While there is a clear problem with a 50 year old filming themselves having sex with a 12 year old, I find it difficult to condemn a 16 year old who sends pictures of themselves to a 17 year old partner. The real problem in the later case seems to me to be the person who makes the images public.

It seems to me there are a couple of words missing from this topic title. What it should have read is,

“ Pornography: Who’s sleeping with whom?”, & who the hell cares.

Now that fits the mood of the times better.

Mother Grundy is deeply concerned, Hasbeen.

Mother Grundy is always concerned about other people doing as they choose.

She seems to be calling herself a Feminist these days. Who'd have thunk?

Didn't Grundy make Sons and Daughters? These two kids fell in love and didn't know they were brother and sister. It was quite the scandal, and who was going to tell them.

Why are people going on about child stuff that's already illegal. Under 16 cant give consent there's no probs there.

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