I don't think this article is advocating censorship of pornography at all.

I think a lot of people miss the point that porn is a product, a business, a VERY profitable business, actually... for a few people. Most porn actors are poorly paid for what they do and for the income they generate for others.

Porn films and the industry as a whole should be critiqued just like any other big business. We should question the effects it has on our culture, and I think you'd be pretty naieve to suggest that porn has not had a massive effect on our culture.

People are so damn defensive about porn, it's bizarre. No one is saying it should be banned or you shouldn't watch it at all or it's all bad, but the fact is mainstream porn has changed a lot in recent years and humiliation of women seems to be a big part of it.

Even porn actors like James Deen (known for doing some rather hardcore stuff) have expressed opinions on it, saying the idea that a woman should be "punished" for being sexual is both depressing and boring.

I also think it's kind of hilarious the way some people think porn is so modern and/or cutting edge, when a lot of the stereotypes it reinforces are so very traditional, sexist and racist.

Well said Chloeraina.

Porn has been around a long, long time, and I agree it is certainly not cutting edge, however as you said , porn is big business, and while there is big money to be made, the pornography world will do anything to keep people interested.

I doubt we can ever stop it though...

SilverinCanberra

>> While there is a clear problem with a 50 year old filming themselves having sex with a 12 year old, I find it difficult to condemn a 16 year old who sends pictures of themselves to a 17 year old partner. <<

Absolutely agree. It is a ridiculous state that a teenager can wind up with a criminal record because of sending (or receiving) nude photos.

The law continues to be an ass. Men and women continue to have unrealistic expectations of each other.

At least I can choose what I watch and what I read.

So it goes.

chloeraina, "No one is saying it should be banned or you shouldn't watch it at all or it's all bad"

Are you sure about that? Helen may have more nuanced views expressed elsewhere but in this article she says

"I am a woman on the left, and I am opposed to pornography." - sounds a lot like it's all bad.

Most of the religious objectors would go with the "you shouldn't watch it at all" and "it's all bad" description and the more vocal of the feminist opponents rarely seem to differentiate in their objections.

This article is quite specifically not advocating official censorship, rather trying to increase the social pressures on makers and users of porn by a one sided negative portrayal of porn.

Social censorship can be very effective form of censorship.

R0bert

R0bert:"Social censorship"

George Lakoff prefers the term "progressive debate framing"...

the closet communists have an extremely short memory.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm ladies please read all of this, but especially #24, #25, #26, #40 & #41.

suzeonline, or any other feMANazis care to comment on this link?

you have carefully manufactured your own problems, then complain about your own self inflicted injuries?

What is wrong with you?

do you have Munchausen's disease?

Or do you have Munchausen's by proxy? like the crazy desperate for attention mother who poisons her own children?