Well Poirot, there is in fact one good point.

Women keep complaining that men should be more like women
and since complaining is what women do best, now you complain
when men are more like you:)

RStuart
There have been some articles on OLO relating to the HILDA survey
EG
Women are paid the same as men for equal work
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12072

But I agree regards rationalism.

How can a university or school teach subjects such as maths, physics and chemistry, subjects that have been heavily rationalised and based on scientific laws that have been thoroughly tested and researched, and then teach feminism.

This comes from a TV show “Question Time” featuring Germaine Greer;

Germaine Greer :- “Little girls learn to flirt with their fathers, learn to kiss daddy goodnight and all this sort of business”

Father in the audience who has daughters interjects: - “Surely they give me a kiss because they love me”

Germaine Greer: - “That depends on whether a child is being taught to flirt with you” and “its encouraging girls to be coy and manipulative in the way they approach other people, and that’s something that enters right into the culture”

So fathers shouldn’t be giving their daughters a kiss goodnight.

This comes from someone who has never had any children, and is not in any way an established authority on children.

Yet Greer’s texts are required reading in many classes, and she is given numerous awards and invited into schools and universities to state her beliefs that are rarely based on any scientific evidence, and she is not an established authority on basically any subject she talks about.

Meanwhile, the humanities and social science courses may begin fighting for their survival in Australian education.

"The message of the British changes for Australia is that unless the humanities and the social sciences can ground themselves more plausibly in the public mind as important and useful disciplines, and worthy of public subsidy, then they are likely to be more vulnerable to what has happened in the UK than otherwise," Marginson says.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/opinion-analysis/standing-up-for-the-humanities/story-e6frgcko-1226083677445

I think get rid of the lot of humanities and social science courses and start again some time in the future.

@Poirot: disaffected men have anything even remotely constructive to offer....even just one point?

You nailed the disconnect. You see, I consider demanding an argument be based on facts, to reflect what is actually going on in the world, to be rational, and to offer concrete suggestions to one of the most constructive things I can do.

I know taking account of peoples feelings is all the rage, particularly among the women. They seem to regularly demand we take account of their feelings, and lie about their weight, attractiveness, and the kids achievements. So I'll give a counter example, showing we are better off on occasion putting aside the lies, deceptions and demands we take account of feelings.

The reactions were many and varied reactions to the Wikileaks diplomatic cables release, but one stood out for me: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, insisted they were fakes.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/latest-updates-on-leak-of-u-s-cables-day-10/

His problem with the cables arose he knew the Arab world leaders loved him, because they told him so, over and over again. Apparently pandering feelings is how high level Arab politics works. So so why didn't he believe the cables? Because they claimed that behind his back, these very same people were telling the US and each other he was a nut job.

I am sure he thought he would enhance his status as hero of Arab world by creating a nuclear arsenal. In fact I am sure that was one of his major personal justifications for doing it.

His belief the cables are fake must have shaken last week when Saudi Arabia publicly said if this madman gets nukes we want some too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/29/saudi-nuclear-weapons-iran_n_887154.html

So why the hell didn't they say that 5 years ago? By pussy footing around Ahmadinejad feelings we have been moved one step closer to nuclear Armageddon. What a bunch of girls.

vanna: There have been some articles on OLO relating to the HILDA survey ... Women are paid the same as men for equal work

Indeed vanna. My bad. I even said above I recalled reading that somewhere.

<I note that this thread has lately been colonised by the "Whinging, Whining, Moaning Men's Club".

Talk about crabby old windbags....
Since both genders are in the game of life together, I'm wondering if any of you disaffected men have anything even remotely constructive to offer....even just one point?Posted by Poirot, Monday, 4 July 2011 1:58:47 PM>

Constructive? Under whose definition?

'Whinging, whining and moaning' definitely a put down.

So Poirot wants things discussed that meet with only Poirots approval.

Maybe Poriot can answer a question.

Should a person who has no qualifications in sociology, biology, economics, medicine, ethics, psychology or child raising, go about the world telling people how they should live and raise families?

Welcome to the world of feminism and Germaine Greer.

Or, if you don’t want to answer that question, you could always point to a piece of literature written by any academic that says one good thing about the male gender , amongst the plethora of denegrating, demonising remarks made by academics about the male gender.

And those remarks extend from men oppressing women, to fathers sexualizing their daughters by giving them a kiss goodnight.

No takers?

Why am I not surprised.....