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Solidarity with refugees in Australian prisons : Comments

By Claire Parfitt, published 27/6/2011

Why does the Australian Government spend so much money and time criminalising people who come to Australia to escape persecution and poverty?

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gypsy,
It may be a way to stop the illegals from coming if the government proclaims that, as the african refugees have to wait 10 years, then the illegals will have to wait 10 years before assesment. So they do not get precedence.

All the same, I think that to deny them permanent residence visas and open up Nauru would likely stop them coming.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 5:10:44 PM
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Briar rose: Many of them seem incapable of putting forward a reasonable argument.

I defy you to prove my arguements incorrect.

Ammonite: You are entitled to your opinion - and that is all it is.

But Ammonite. It's the popular opinion & a correct one.

Socratese: In Malaysia there are tens of thousands of Burmese Christians longing to make it to Australia.

You can just bet that none of them make the 800 list.

Amicus: My friend. That would be very enlightening, tell us how you go with that.

Yes, I'd like to see that too. We all would, I think.

Ammo: gypsy and Jayb are confusing religion with culture.

We don't think so, appologies Gypsy.

Ammo: In fact Christianity has more in common with Islam than it does with Judaism.

Considering that Mahomud first wife was a christian, No, not the baby one. Muslims don't care if Christians do have things in common. Christians are still infadels & as such are not human, & should be killed. That's coming from a peaceful religion?

"et tu quoque" literally translated "& you too"

LEGO: The reason why both Liberal and Labor governments "waste so much money imprisoning" country shopping illegal immigrants, Claire, is because both parties know that this is the wish of the overwhelming majority of their electorates.

Wrong LEGO. Most Australians want them sent home or to some other Muslim country where they would be culturally much more at home.

King Hazza: , you could simply allow the public to vote on entry criteria instead- thus making it a matter of people power controlling the borders instead.

They won't do that Hazza. They already know what the outcome would be & the bleeding hearts would not be happy.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 5:59:32 PM
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Gypsy:
(1) What constitutes a legitimate refugee?

The phrase “well-founded fear of being persecuted” is the key phrase of the definition in the UN Handbook. BUT... it goes on to set out specifics. One of them, in short, is, they cannot shop around.

(2) Should or can entirely different religions, cultures and laws exist and assimiliate together?

In most cases yes. e.g. Hindu, Buddism. Islam? No! Though not through anyone fault but their own.

(3) Do refugee's who jump the queue by illegally entering Australia ahead of others which are using the proper process entiled to be accepted?

No! definately NO!

(4) At what is the effects and costs to the Australian People, a/ In jobs? b/ In housing? c/ In welfare?

$1.2 Billion accomodating queue jumpers, that answers that question.

(5) How many refugees and immigrants participate in committing criminal offences?

A good Question. Was there an Italian Mafia? Most definately Yes, Tully/ Malanda/ Ingham mostly some Burdekin, mostly extorsion. I grew up with the italians in Nth Qld. Lebanese? Most definately, longest running crime syndicates in Australia, Sydney & Melbourne. Chinese? Triad... most definately especialy in Sydney. Rest of Sth East Asia? Yes, mostly drugs, independent communities. Greek, Yes, Melbourne, Mostly standover, car crime. Middle East, Yes drugs, Cars, standover, welfare & money laundering. This does not mean that all these people are into crime.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 6:01:51 PM
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