gypsy

Christians may make claim to certain values, however they cannot claim to have invented them.

Let's have a look:

Worship of god above all things - including family and friends
Fidelity in marriage
Faith
Rejecting worldly goods
Rejecting violence
Forgiveness
Love
Righteousness

These 'values' were not invented by Jesus, were held by Jews and many others well before Christianity. Worshiping a deity cannot be said to be a 'value' it is a form of behaviour.

Fidelity in marriage - again many people were faithful to each other before Christianity and was required in many religions BEFORE Christianity.

Faith - the one which trumps over evidence and again was not invented by Christians.

Rejecting Worldly Goods - good one this, like George W Bush and John Howard, any number of evangelists have taken a vow of poverty. Again not originating with Christianity.

Rejecting Violence - Coalition of the Willing, KKK, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, paedophile priests .... this is a really long list.

Forgiveness - or turning the other cheek, not much in evidence by our resident Christians on OLO nor in the world at large, also not original Christian concept.

Love - Give me a break, Christians did not invent love thy neighbour.

Righteousness - love this; the right to be more dogmatic than others, not living and let live, the right to discriminate against others, such as Moslems.

In fact Christianity has more in common with Islam than it does with Judaism.

A referendum should be put to the people of Australia asking us the people if we agree to the muslem refugees relocating to our country Australia.
How many sleeping terrorist groups are now living here and waiting for the call to arms?
As previously stated in other posts mentioning the costs involved to process and keep them all at the cost of our taxes.
Taxes that should be used for the benefit of the Australian people and not the muslem refugees.
The illegal boat people should be immediately deported on arrival. If our Government adopted this policy it would be a deterant and send a message to other muslem people considering the same crime. This would make it difficult for the criminal people smugglers to continue their criminal activities, and which our government is an active assistant of the crime by permitting it to continue. To aid and abett a criminal offence is a crime under the criminal code act. This indicates that our federal and start governments by failing to deport illegal people entering Australia are in fact committing a crime.
Some may think my comments as racist but I can assure you I am not I am a passionate Australian and love my country and its people and feel it is my duty to protect it for our children and future generations of Australian people.
I realise there would be critics who do not support my views so before condemning me I suggest they do their research as I have before making up their minds. Look at what is occuring in other christion countries that have accepted muslem rfugees! Great Briton, U.S.A. Sweden, Norway, France Canada, they are all having problems which we have not been fully confronted with but we will be destined to face the same if we fail to act now. It is up to all of us the Australian people. We all have a duty of care for the future of Australia and its people.

gypsy

Thank you for your deep consideration of my post and your welcome to people of diverse faiths and beliefs to our bountiful country.

c - thank you for a thoughtful and considered article recognising, amongst other important matters, that the majority of australians do not support the current abysmal 'policy' on refugees & asylum seekers. with 90-95% recognised ultimately as 'legal' and hence entitled to remain, the 'policy' is exposed as lacking in cogency. it is fortunate that there are writers and commentators - such as yourself - able to point this out.

Gypsy 1: DITTO. Gypsy 2: DITTO. Well said.

Ammonite: Well duh. Everybody knows that. All religion profess exactly the same thing. It just differs in the way it obtains their aims. Christianity went through the inquisition. The West & the East had & Crusades in the Middle Ages. Islam is going through that phase now. Islam started off with violent invasion & conversion, nothing has changed. Lopping heads off & stoning has been a part of Middle Eastern culture since the Stone Age, nothing has changed. The West & the East have moved o. In the Middle East, nothing has changed. I take it that you are OK with Middle Eastern culture.

Well, Claire darling, by the look of the posts so far, with one unnoticable exception, You lose. Back in your Box." With appologies to Simon.

Ammonite I hear what you are saying and understand to an extent. For the record I am neither christian nor athiest. If anything I would be seen as an agnostic.
What I am pointing out is Australia is fundamently a christian country, whereas many of the refugees relocating to Australia are from muslem countries. We both have different cultures and traditions.
Most Australian people do not want to adapt to muslem culture and their Koran law just as muslems do not want to adapt to our culture and customs which are based on christian bible law.
The proof is in the pudding that the 2 cultures cannot exist together.
As I previously stated in a previous post problems at extreme proportions are occuring in other countries that have axcepted moslem refugees in large numbers. Those countries have discovered the two cultures fail to exist together. Luckily for us in Australia we have not been subjected as yet as other countries but it is beginning to occur here now. Only last week in Sydney a muslem lady had her sentence and conviction over turned due to proof of identification because her appearence was hidden under a burqah. Then there have been cases of muslem refugees being arrested and convicted of terrorist activities and plans of mass slughtering of Australian people. I am not suggesting that all muslem refugees are terrorists, but it is common knowledge they are pleased to sacrifice themselves for their god, they do this as suicide bombers and take as many people they consider as their enemies as possible. They consider all non muslems as their enemy.
Many muslem refugees left their homelands due to government persecution. In many of those countries the people have risen up and have ousted their dictator governments and military, so it would be assumed they can safetly return home to the countries the fled.
Many of the refugee families exist on welfare payments which is at the cost of us the tax payer. I use the principle of "Knowledge is GOOD and ignorence is EVIL. So I research.