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The Age's reporting of Christian Religious Education : Comments

By Nicholas Tuohy, published 17/5/2011

Those scheming and secretive Christians are trying to get our children. Well, so The Age thinks.

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askegg,
'Remember when god flooded the entire world and killed every living thing?
Charming fellow."

The story goes: God saved Noah and his family because they listened to Gods instructions, unlike those around him who scoffed Noah for building an ark when it had actually never rained on planet earth until the flood. The community thought Noah was stupid. It is exactly like that today. Jesus saves. The next act of judgement will not be a flood though. That is the promise God gave when he sent the rainbow after the 40 day flood.

The Holy Bible is full of promises from God to those who want to listen. Amen
Posted by Sandpiper, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 9:14:55 AM
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Sandpiper,

"...when it had actually never rained on planet earth until the flood."

....really and truly....?

Gee I'm glad my son is home educated if this statement is any indication of the religious mentality broadcast in CRE at school.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 9:26:02 AM
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Sandpiper,

If the Bible was the word of a god, then it would be so amazing and beyond what we can currently comprehend that you wouldn’t need tricks to take it seriously.

If the Bible was the word of a god, it would be timeless; not requiring educated and civilized modern day people to allow for the fact that it was written by savages just to take seriously.

If the Bible was the word of a god, then there would be no competing holy books as no human could possibly compete.

Instead, the bible is one of the most horrendous, violent and disgusting books that still inhabits our bookshelves.

<<The Holy Bible is full of promises from God to those who want to listen.>>

The Christian god is incredibly stupid if it wants to get its message out through texts, anecdotal testimony and old languages that die out. They are not pathways to truth and anything that could possibly be considered a god would understand this.

Which means that either your god doesn’t exist or it doesn’t care enough about people who understand the nature of evidence to bother presenting it,

I’m guessing it’s the former.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 9:31:44 AM
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@Sandpiper

Thank you so much for providing us all with such a fantastic example of why fundamentalist religious people should have no access whatsoever to indoctrinate our kids via any sort of back door religious instruction program in public schools.

Your ignorance is a shining light and testament to the dangers inherent within the best of 15th century thinking.

Thanks
DJ
Posted by djarm67, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 9:59:37 AM
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I don't think it helps at all to continue to sidetrack the discussion into the validity of christain teaching/myths.

The main issue has two parts
- the role of a special interest religious group taking time in the school timetable to promote their views As I understand it the humanist society has been denied a similar opportunity in one or more states.
- the fundamental dishonesty of much of the christain response to campaigns to change what's occuring. In recent articles we had an argument based on "cultural heritage" and now the claim that RE providers don't try and use access to schools for evangalistic purposes. SU Qld makes a lie of the latter and I've not seen any sign of the cultural heritage issue featuring on RE providers websites.

The churches and many of the supporters of RE are clearly willing to engage in either outright lies or deceptive behaviour in defense of their access to school children.

I doubt that many who have had anything to do with chaplaincy or RE programs really believe that it's about cultural heritage or that it's not treated as an outreach program by most of those involved.

The defense of the program is fundamentally dishonest.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 10:06:42 AM
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As someone with a lot of firsthand experience with the Christian church and its theology, I can second what R0bert says.

Christian theology teaches that they go forth and proselethise (and so they should considering how grossly negligent it would be to - according to their beliefs - allow others to go to hell or miss out on an eternal reward).

So for them to think that they can fool us into thinking that they’re chaplains are simply going to act as counselors and resist their childishly uncontrollable urge and their DUTY to convert people is a bit rich.

They know they’re being disingenuous and deceitful when they speak of cultural heritage but they’d either be in a deep state of denial about it, or they’d justify it by assuring themselves that god would overlook their little indiscretion because they’re spreading the “good news”.

Evangelicals will go to all sorts of dishonest lengths to convert others and should always be treated with suspicion.

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djarm67,

Welcome to OLO!

I’m a subscriber of your YouTube channel and have even linked to some of your videos here before.

Keep posting. Your contributions will be valuable!
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 11:45:19 AM
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