"even science
as clever as it seems to be
can only insert genes [chromosones]..into living cells

" *it cant make a membrane..
[all cells need them]

"it..[ a chromosone]..cant make life..
it needs other things[20 minimum]
to sustain life..sustain the dna..create rna
rebuilt dna..feed sustain the cell walls etc"

@ OneUnerGod

Science isn't the mechanism for natural biology, oug, it is the explanation.

Science may be the mechanism for artificial things like engines, and rockets, but not basic biology.

mc quote/''Science isn't the mechanism for natural biology, oug, it is the explanation.""

it is a theory
[as far as their THEORY of evolution is concerned]

think is their theories are wrong
sure with simple biological process..the can claim to know..bits

but with evolution[ie changing genus
where they calaim one genus 'evolved'..into new genus
thats pure fraud]

no one has ever evolved
a wolf into a tiger
or an ape into man..

[sure they speculate..but speculation..isnt science either]
thing is they dont know
cant replicte it[no replication no claim to science..'method'

the dont have faulsification
[ie cant even state definitive faulsifyable principles
that if refuted rebuts their thesis]

all science must have that
or its not science

but thats why its taught to kids
gullible kids..as adults they think they know
but when tested/pushed..reveal all they got is spin

but im wasting valuable posting limits
i was going to expand on values

but its possably beyond others comprehending
till they get they been sold lies..

by those who got no values for truth

yes believing in a god
sold by liars[religiously lying]
and going against..'the science'
seems a big jump

but just because they are liars
dont mean the cant stumle on same truths

[the best/biggest lie
needs to be mostly truth..or it fools no-one]

but the ignorant of science
think they are sooo clever
saying i [me]..dont get the science..

trouble being i know what science
is trying to say..and they lie

so i need others
to put up what they think they know
so i can prove to them they been decieved

but they hate to appear dumb
[but they arnt..]

the dumb stay silent
thus 'they' remain dumb
the wise dont mind asking questions

[its the dumb who try to answer][to wit me]

im only asking others
to dare to ask for proof
or present it

or ask me to rebut
or rebut what i say

yes believing in a god
sold by liarsyes believing in a god
sold by liars[religiously lying]
and going against..'the science'
seems a big jump
and going against..'the science'
seems a big jump...

OUG...Your confusing me here. So your not with Evolution as you have written above....nor are you
"Quote yes believing in a god
sold by liars[religiously lying]".and you call yourself ONE UNDER GOD..so you present yourself as a believer of some other type of god..OK, got that much...So could you please tell me which God you believe that made it all?

So neither left or right on this subject......I get that......so you must exist somewhere in the middles grounds.......and can you please explain exactly where that is......cause the God your saying right, is the one you believe in.......What is its name, if it has one?

And No-more of your lengthy contradictory mumbo jumbo.

I will settle for I dont know either way or Iam just a commentator.

LEA

It is very probable that a healthy sense of self without reliance on belief in a deity/religion disseminates the highest and best values in a society.

"In 2005, the Kripke Center released a detailed study called, “Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies.” Long title, I know. But, what it said was very important and gets overlooked by many atheists.

Keep in mind, the Kripke Center ISN’T secular and has no reason to promote a secular view. According to their own website, “The Kripke Center is dedicated to facilitating scholarly activity in the areas of religion and society. Special attention is given to promoting understanding between and among faith communities, including especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The Kripke Center’s primary audience is the academic community, but its scholarship and services are available to all who seek them. The Center is named in honor of Rabbi Myer and Dorothy Kripke.” The study had some amazing discoveries. They concluded:

Indeed, the data examined in this study demonstrates that only the more secular, pro-evolution democracies have, for the first time in history, come closest to achieving practical “cultures of life” that feature low rates of lethal crime, juvenile-adult mortality, sex related dysfunction, and even abortion. The least theistic secular developed democracies such as Japan, France, and Scandinavia have been most successful in these regards. The non-religious, pro-evolution democracies contradict the dictum that a society cannot enjoy good conditions unless most citizens ardently believe in a moral creator. The widely held fear that a Godless citizenry must experience societal disaster is therefore refuted. Contradicting these conclusions requires demonstrating a positive link between theism and societal conditions in the first world with a similarly large body of data – a doubtful possibility in view of the observable trends."

For the full report check out the link below:

http://tinyurl.com/37j7pom

OUG. I find this just for you. Can you please comment on it.

Oh and please read the YouTube comments below the link. Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCpT88Jw-f4&feature=related

Peace:)

LEA

quote/leap
''tell me which God you believe that made it all?""

as i said..god made the universe
sustains all life etc

he made the earth
we modified it...killed off much of it
made the polution etc

god just made life and sustains it to be
as to which 'god'..there is but one god

im told he calls himself 'me'
or even i..[as in ..'i am']
others call him[her]..by many names

but he is beyond name
[and beyond lable like male/fee-mail]

some think to have/know his name
that they control him..[its such a joke]

''you must exist..in the middles grounds""
so do you my brother
this realm lies between heaven and hell

i like you lie in the middle..'ground'
im in the middle about most aspects of this life
i love respect and honour all the messengers.
.but hold none before my good..god

''please explain exactly..where that is''
i ove [try to love gods creation
as i know god does love all his creation
[as you know i often fail..at consistantly loving all of you]
but hey im not god..only god is ALLWAYS good

im allowed to be wrong
cause human error cant hurt spirit

""What is its name''
i call the femail part
aspect..of good ana
[alpha/negative alpha]

the male asspect of good i call 'i am'

but mostly i just think of him as good

""lengthy contradictory mumbo jumbo.""
pot klettle my beloved brrr-other..

''I will settle for I dont know""

i cant do that
if i feel i know..i put it out-there
and if others think im wrong..im only too ready to listen

im not just posting commentary
im posting what i feel fits
as a reasonded out answer

i really spent my life reading stuff
everything is half right and half wrong
and if im wrong or right..dont matter to me

*as much as knowing the truth
god is love/logic/life/light/thought..[energy]
where his 'signs..[see previous line]..are..

there god must be
thats good enough for me
that we do to/for the least..we do to him

[by the..love of neighbour
is the how..of how..we love god]