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Are Christians really the source of Oz values? : Comments

By Leslie Cannold, published 21/4/2011

As the Ad Hoc Interfaith Committee explains, the main tolerance many Christians thought deserved legal protection was their

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nb: Where this position I've given on voluntary associations does not hold is where there is arbitarary discrimination in otherwise secular bodies; And this could provide a rationale for affirmative action for instance. (in the labour market, quotas for business, quotas for the executive wing of government etc) What makes it acceptable for some voluntary associations to discriminate is only a broad socio-economic context which empowers all citizens - and gives citizens a choice... (backed by liberal rights, social support networks, and economic security) But wealth, for instance, is a source of POWER in secular society.... We have no choice to avoid the power of wealth; so with prevention of the abuse of that power - the power of wealth - the same conditions of voluntary association do not apply... (ie: whether that abuse occurs in the context of systematic and ultimately oppressive discrimination)
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Sunday, 24 April 2011 9:20:06 PM
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anyhow...its the day jesus was resercted
but you wouldnt know it by tv[thus i blog]

the war machine has won this round of easter pr/spin

wars dominated the news..
the real reason of this day barely raised a mention..
but it was finally the satanist tv..cop and murder shows
[and war mongering spin..that woke me from my slumbers

but also the upcomming nuptuals of the future pope william
and kate..[who has subverted his own messiahs day..by poor planning of his upcomming nuptuals..[bombarding hard core..the current news cycle..that should be focused on the holy christ

who died for us to sin
and who returned to tell us the lie of reserction 'day'
[thus the lie of judgment day...but war mongering is more news worthy

SOOOO

lets get back to the joke of xtian values
anyone seriously studying the formation of austra-lazier.,.would know
that the context for colonisation into oz...

was a direct result of the defeat of the british forces in usa..[the brit war mongering colonisation...war machine men

further that prisoners
under armed guard [by the military]
were the 'convict root' of this racist/state..*down under

is it xtian values
to kill off the native population with smallpox
[as was done by sir..[lol] joseph banks..

the great proponant
of terra nullious[empty land]..
his mission was predominantly to deliver the small pox
[as taught him in new found land
[under lord jeffry amhurst]
..founder of modern biological warfare

one need read no further
than govener philips first commision[12 oct 1786]
page one

'..to follow orders and directions'..
'according to the rules and diciplines of war'..

because..[page 4]

''it belongeth to us
in right of our royal perogative
to have custody of idiots and their estates
and take the proffit thereof to our own use..

finding them nessisties..

..and to provide for custody of lunatics""

on reservations..
seggregating the fools
sorry idiots/lunatics..on islands and in town camps

like in current day palistein
another colonial suck-sess SS-tory
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 24 April 2011 9:22:41 PM
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If people cannot show consideration and sensitivity to Christians on this day of all days... :(

What makes Christians different than other communities whose dignity and rights we have defended in the name of pluralism and liberty and so on?

Why this hatred by some for Jesus Christ - who as he died on the cross - said literally - and from his heart 'forgive them not they know no what they do?'.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Sunday, 24 April 2011 9:47:04 PM
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"forgive them not they know no what they do?"
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Sunday, 24 April 2011 9:47:04 PM

Interestingly, this phrase is missing from the earliest Bibles discovered so far: 'codex Sinaiticus' and 'codex Vaticanus' written in the 4th century.

Also missing from them is Mar 16:9-20, the post-resurrection account in the gospel considered to be the fore-runner to the others; and the story of the stoning of the adulterous woman – "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" .
Posted by McReal, Sunday, 24 April 2011 11:20:49 PM
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link for the previous post

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/the-big-question-what-is-the-codex-sinaiticus-and-what-does-it-reveal-about-the-bible-1734439.html
Posted by McReal, Sunday, 24 April 2011 11:21:32 PM
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"day of all days"

hardly a defined "day" at all, is it?. Varies over a month. Dependent upon the timing of the full moon.

Like pagan spring planting traditions, I would suggest.

When you steal a car, at least give it a fresh spray job and change the number plates before trying to sell it back to the owner.

Similarly, "easter" is so obviously a whitewash of pre-existing spring festivals as to be tragic.

"Christianity" is no longer deserving of respect on *any* day. Adherents do not oppose those who are vile provided these profess the cheapest veneer of affiliation.

Indulgences, anyone? Phelps? Christians need to oust a few parasites from their own camp, and protect their "brand" rather than extend it unpoliced to shonky franchisees.

Rusty
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Monday, 25 April 2011 7:48:16 AM
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