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Polar ice melt and sea level rise: earth climate in uncharted territory : Comments

By Andrew Glikson, published 17/3/2011

Seas are rising faster than we previously thought.

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"The Earth climate is entering uncharted territory."

Ah, that must be why on your own chart the current temperature rise (i.e. the one that stopped 15 years ago) looks so much like the rises 100,000 years ago and 300,000 years ago and 400,000 years ago. The ones that the polar bears and the coral and the frogs and the foraminfera all survived just fine. And the people, of course.

See http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/03/new-interpretation-of-antarctic-ice-core and the associated references for a more balanced review of paleoclimatic data.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 17 March 2011 5:56:28 AM
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Posted by one under god, Thursday, 17 March 2011 7:30:39 AM
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Dealing with this coming catastrophe of sealevel rise of up to 2 metres this century is not helped by ignorant comments and rap songs. Andrew Glikson is a scientist who is as up to date as anyone on the earth with the data needed to assess the situation. And that data personally terrifies me. Low lying areas as in coastal Japan will see the same devastation as wrought by the recent tsunami though it won't be as rapid. Coastal cities everywhere will be inundated and people will have to move to higher ground and find new land to plant crops. If runaway warming starts - a strong likelihood if methane is released from the tundra - then that will affect food production and mass starvation will result. James Lovelock may end up being right - there may just be a few of us surviving, huddled around the poles.
Posted by popnperish, Thursday, 17 March 2011 8:47:53 AM
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"And that data personally terrifies me"

yes, exactly the intent

The world is ending

So what do we do?

Adapt, pay tax?

Once we've paid the tax, then of course the Australian government will make it ok, we don't need to do anything further at all since they will take it all out of our hands and make it better

yay for carbon tax!

"Dealing with this coming catastrophe of sealevel rise of up to 2 metres this century is not helped by ignorant comments and rap songs"

How do you reckon anyone can "solve" it?

Why do you think it can be "solved" .. ?

my sarcastic comments above about the tax are frivolous for that reason, you are talking about changing the climate .. scientists hint it can be changed and deliberately scare you to motivate action .. apart from squealing and running around hysterically, what can you do?

Protest at people who disagree, blog and comment nasty things about them (reaaaly helpful)

Ask the government to help? Experts in getting elected, taxing and spending money may not be our best investment.

If Australia disappeared overnight, it would be 2 weeks before China takes up the slack in CO2 production, so we're irrelevant.

No one is going to "follow" Australia, that is just fantasy to think the world is waiting to see what WE do.

Our egos are not matched by the world's respect.

So China, India, USA, Russia all of South America, Africa and many other nations are going to do absolutely nothing. So we have no choice but to adapt, to whatever happens, regardless of whether Andrew is right or wrong.

It's pointless scaremongering and while I'm sure he feels he is making a contribution and justifying his position .. it does nothing for the situation.

Unless of course, we can change the climate .. big call .. everything I read tells me it will take hundreds of years for any effect and only if we all disappeared tomorrow.
Posted by rpg, Thursday, 17 March 2011 9:13:06 AM
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Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 17 March 2011 9:18:55 AM
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rpg asks "What can you do?" Well, the carbon tax is a start and it should be sufficiently high to give impetus to the renewable energies (geothermal, solar, wind). We can remove all subsidies for fossil fuel industries. We don't open any new coal power stations. We can close down Hazelwood and all the other dirty power stations. We can change transport rapidly towards electrified rail and cars. We can facilitate people using bicycles. We can mandate that all new houses be energy efficient, sited correctly and have solar hot water on their roofs. We can stop flying as much. We can buy locally grown food. We can reduce, reuse, recycle. We can limit the number of children to two and reward those who have none or one. We can ensure that priority is given in our foreign aid program to reproductive health care, including family planning, so that it is available to all women everywhere. I can go on, but I think I'm running out of space...
Posted by popnperish, Thursday, 17 March 2011 9:29:47 AM
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