Steady on there Tim, that ain't mockin'!

Runner is of course quite right in saying that history is interpreted and re-interpreted by all sides for political reasons. I am curious to know whether he/she thinks "our Creator" approved of the actions taken during the Inquisition. Would you like to satisfy my curiosity, runner?

Al I am not sure why you persist in this anti-Green rhetoric. Green supporters are like any group of people - a mixed bag - many are Christian. I am not sure how Senator Brown's sexuality has anything to do with his leadership. Do you realise Parliament House has many homosexuals even on the Conservative side. It is completely irrelevant.

Where is your evidence (as you claim) that Greens are anti-Christian? They are not. There is a difference as in the author's article arguing for anti-discrimination on the basis of religion (any religion) and being disdainful or anti-Christian.

You have offered no comment on the merits of the author's argument only responded with unjustified accusations.

The Greens have only ever fought as far as I can remember in the case of the EB (which if I remember is your religion - but correct me if I am wrong) was when members of the Church actively prevented parents from accessing their children in the event of marriage break down and where one parent left the Church. When a woman prevents a man from seeing his children it is the act of evil feminism apparently, but when Churches do it it is okay? Be fair in your assessments.

Not agreeing with an act committed by a Church or a religious person is not the same as being anti-Christian.

These accusations are disingenuous and are attempts at avoiding the issues at hand.

Excuse my ignorance Pelican, but what religion is EB?

I doubt anything anyone can say will change AGIR's radical 'Christian' views, especially where religious freedom is concerned.

Obviously, we are only 'free' to serve HIS God, and no other, or we are damned to hell!

Very free indeed.

And so you see the value of free speech. Algoreisrich and runner have just spouted in ways that expose their own ignorance and frightful bigotry. I assume they have done so on many other comment sections here at OLO. If more Victorians actual read their bile we would not have the dreadful problem that is occurring there today.

And my political allegiance or spiritual interests do not make any difference to the validity or otherwise of my arguments. Educated readers not filled with pig ignorance will judge what is written on its merits alone.

With regard to my personal opinion, for those that want to know, I think that judaism, christianity and islam are pretty crass and useless fairy tales with a strong anti-human, anti social bent. I do sometimes mock those religions but its a bit too easy. Many of the religious institutions based on those religions are particularly nasty and I will stand up against their attempts to dominate society. However, I will never oppose the right of the believers in those religions to their beliefs or to the free expression of those beliefs.

I would certainly never tell them to stop mocking me "or else".

Suzie I think that EB being referred to is exclusive bretheren. My impression is that David is OB (O for open and treat "open" as a relative term - open compared to the very cult like EB). Some decent OB's around and some extremists.

R0bert