Grim,

You think we should use less coal, so our grandchildren will be better able to afford NYLON & PLASTIC? Are you serious?

You say “All we need do is treat the air we breathe with the same respect we offer the land.”

Carbon dioxide isn’t harmful to us in the amounts we see in the atmosphere. And as you acknowledge above, it may well turn out that it doesn’t cause a significant problem for the environment either. In that case, carbon dioxide will remain the VITAL, non-poisonous, life sustaining gas that it is today.

Peak oil is NOT an established fact, anymore than is AGW. Neither is peak coal. We have a ready alternative to coal anyway. It’s called nuclear and it’s been used successfully and safely (despite Chernobyl and Three Mile Island) around the world for 50 years. Furthermore the impact of reaching the peak of production of coal and oil is not the catastrophe that you want to paint. The fact is that as the price starts to go up. We will start to use less of both. The Americans are beginning to see that they cannot own 5tonne trucks as their daily drivers anymore.

ALL,

That’s just a flat out lie.

I used to work at a coal mine. The company spent millions of dollars resculpting the landscape and planting trees after we’d finished mining. I spent a lot of time in the Bowen Basin and ALL of the companies in the region were required to do this. I doubt you’ve even been to the Bowen Basin, where we produce almost 30% of our coal, but the area is good for very little else. It’s mostly flat rocky scrub with few animals, and very little water. It’s an eyesore in its natural state.

You won’t find the locals complaining about the mines either. It’s the inner city elites who fly over the area, on their way to Port Douglas or Kuranda, who turn up their nose at the very thing that has brought them the prosperity they enjoy. Its seems almost too bizarre to be true.

It is a rather strong word Paul , Lie , I do not have any reason , so In fact , hire an aircraft and fly over the Hunter valley for a start , then question where your millions had gone ; Then test the Validity of your theory ; You will find that it is indeed what Brief words I used are FACT.
It is real, observable and destroyed. Unless you wish to argue that is an optical elusion?
But that is only one region in N S W , Go the Queensland- Western Australia – N T and do the same
Care to see any others?

No PaulL, I'm suggesting we use less oil so our grandchildren can afford plastic and nylon.
And peak oil is pretty well established; in the past decade oil usage exceeded new oil discoveries, and the oil discovered is (mostly) harder to get, with the arguable exception of the new Mongolian wells.
Keep in mind "Peak Oil" doesn't refer to total oil reserves; rather the rate of extraction versus usage.
Extraction rates are dropping, usage (globally) is increasing.
AGW is also pretty well established, by the vast majority of scientists and scientific institutions; so called 'sceptics' can always trot out a few dissenters, but they are very much a minority, and often have about as much credibility as the 'scientists' who insisted tobacco had no relationship to lung cancer. In fact, they are quite often paid by the same general mob...

I think it reasonable to assume that you have accepted The vicissitudes of the Colloquies of Global warmers or Climate Change, but it is utterly exploded if the actual scientific methodology of ratiocination is applied; it will with all certainty provide the apodictic truth of the matter and has done so .
The Penelope of State Funded minions gregariously lurking under the guise of Intellectuals will all be exposed as the utter frauds and contemptible criminals complicit in the act of fraud never seen in mankind’s history.

A new year begins

But science and emotion

Remain enemies

All,

You said “if you actually have a look at every single Mine executed by State Government, I can assure you that there has never been any attempt to return any sight to any form of normality , let alone to resemble any form of environmentalism other than total vandalism.
This is an BLATANT lie.

Flying over the area and seeing holes, does not make your outrageous claims true. Funnily enough, working mines need the holes.

I can tell you for an absolute FACT, that the half dozen open cut coal mines that I’ve visited ALL spent significant sums resculpting the land and planting trees and vegetation