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By Roger Smith, published 25/11/2010On White Ribbon Day, we condemn violence against women. We should also condemn it against men.
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Posted by Liz45, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 5:51:31 PM
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@liz45 - Sorry, I don't have an "inclination" to watch scabs being picked.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 6:23:52 PM
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Liz I've seen similar to the stuff by Flood in the first link. As I've said earlier Flood would have a lot more credibility if he applied the same standards to mothers groups and to the type of research which underpins a genderised view of DV. Flood is a player who does not even try to be even handed.
Flood refers to the authors of the CTS studies but in my view is very selective on what he references. One researcher specifically mentioned by Flood is Straus. There is a good piece by him at http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf Another excellent piece at http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf which includes the following "The primary purpose of the article is to suggest explanations for the fact that, despite a large body of high-quality evidence, gender symmetry in the perpetration of physical assault against a partner in a marital, cohabiting, or dating relationship has not been perceived by the public or service providers, moreover, the article also suggests explanations for the fact that research showing symmetry has often been concealed and denied by academics." - not quite the picture Flood tries to paint. and http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41E2.pdf A discussion of the criticism of CTS is at http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/CTS4.pdf I'll have a look at the others but if the first piece by Flood set's the standard Anti may be being a lot smarter than me. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 6:48:09 PM
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@Liz45, how about you reading something that is more up to date:
"Campaign hit by false stats A domestic violence campaign has been tarnished with twisted crime statistics and a critical Ombudsman's report, amid claims State Minister Gail Gago's Office for Women has been hijacked by "feminists pushing a political agenda". Premier Mike Rann has been asked to shift the Don't Cross the Line domestic violence campaign from Ms Gago's portfolio to the Attorney General's Department, so the campaign takes into account violence in the home against men and children as well as women." Read more... http://www.oneinthree.com.au/storage/pdfs/Campaign_Hit_By_False_Stats.pdf @R0bert, I think we're wasting our time. Liz45 mentioned in one of her posts something about her ex and university but she gives me the impression she herself she has not benefitted from any quality education. It looks to me as though she has been thoroughly indocrinated with feminist rubbish and has the blinkers on fixed fast. Little chance of getting anywhere with her, when she keeps throwing back the same old garbage. She is just incapable of looking at statistics with a critical and impartial eye. Posted by Roscop, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 8:15:21 PM
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@Antispetic -You obviously missed the bit that states, that the original article was written in the US - there could be a 'local factor'?
Dr Michael Flood is a Dr in Psychology. What qualifications do you have? He has done significant work with the issue of sexual violence etc. Has it ever occurred to you, that he is even handed, but the evidence is so blatantly clear to be ignored. The issue is not about mothers groups or whatever, it's about violence in relationships. For those who continue to berate anyone they perceive to be a 'victim'? My dictionary states - victim - someone who is injured, killed, robbed etc. Do you denigrate people who have their car stolen? Their house robbed? they're victims too! I was a victim of crime, that doesn't mean that I walk around with a 'victim mentality' now. Roscop - You must be a hoot at parties, with your perceived superior sense of self. Feminists aren't born or indoctrinated - we're MAN MADE! There's something terribly lacking in a person, who is incapable of reaching out to someone who speaks of having been horribly abused, for many years. I sympathise with men who get a bad deal in the family law court. I lost my grandson via a woman who was selfish and vindictive. I'll find him again one day, but it hasn't made me so hateful that I've lost my humanity, or the capacity to have empathy! You and the other couple of blokes(mostly)are vindictive, hateful, judgemental and plain anti women, and it shows. Has it ever occurred to you, that you are mentally ill, or at best, incapable of moving past your intractable hatreds? If JC himself wrote an article like the many I've read, and the views of so many experienced people, you still wouldn't accept it! You're the ones who show that you lack much education - education of self. Awareness of other peoples' pain, and the ability to show some sort of ordinary human kindness! You're part of the problem! You'll never be part of the solution! Posted by Liz45, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 10:35:35 PM
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A ph'd in psychology doesn't mean that a person cannot be biased and prejudiced.
There are members of Mensa who work as labourers and have no formal tertiary education. Even incredibly smart people can be dumb and a tertiary qualification does not apply to common sense. Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 23 December 2010 5:17:37 AM
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http://www.xyonline.net/content/claims-about-husband-battering
http://3things.org.au/2010/11/24/mythbusting-on-white-ribbon-day/
http://www.bullyingnoway.com.au/talkout/profiles/researchers/michaelFlood.shtml
http://www.austdvclearinghouse.unsw.edu.au/Conference%20papers/Exp-horiz/Flood.pdf