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Australia racist? Well, der! : Comments

By Bill Collopy, published 30/8/2010

Australians like to think we left xenophobia behind with the days when we couldn't buy bok choy at the supermarket.

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JoM

I have noticed that some posters here are deleted for typing in capitals, yet the likes of you are given a voice here. Go figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mb2Bxzn5yk
Posted by Johnny Rotten, Saturday, 4 September 2010 11:35:16 AM
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If our aim is to find a way for people of all kinds to share this wide brown land wisely, justly and creatively, then I have to say the approach of the article and the forum in general is futile.

As long as you talk about race, or talk about a person as if she or he belongs to a race, then you perpetuate racism. The truth is that "race" is an illusion and therefore any viewpoint based on the concept of "race" is a self-deception that also seeks to deceive other people.

Anti-racism is just as indefensible: it seeks to repress the fear and aggression arising from the illusion, rather than dispelling the illusory conviction itself. One way or another, no matter how deeply unconscious the racist belief becomes, the evil it generates will break out sometime all the more viciously.

We must concentrate our efforts on working together as human beings to create a healthier, wiser, more loving, and more creative world. Expose the falsity of the race-concept. Clearly taught science and philosophy can do much to this end.

Once "race" is out of the way we can get to work on the next and probably more difficult issues: culture and religion.

For an elaboration on the "race" illusion, you may care to read my article from 2006 on OLO:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=4108
Posted by crabsy, Saturday, 4 September 2010 12:11:50 PM
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J of M,

Your question assumes genocide of 'white people' is pending and I see no evidence of that here in Australia. Last time I looked the majority of people elected into power are white.

I think you confuse (perhaps deliberately to suite your own benign racism) the difference between white people and whiteness. Whiteness stands for the relative privilege, profit and power of those occupying the structural social positions of whites in a hierarchically ordered racial society, as such, racist states are states of whiteness. You continue to avoid naming this structural privilege and power preferring to reduce your analysis of racism to interpersonal and interactive domains of observation.

You will of course deny this because it defies your whole proposition and argument about genocide. (You also appear to have very little or no knowledge of world history...why?)

Your overall discourse is not new to me, it’s the usual neo-con banter adopted by white supremists who want to appear to be "reasonable" and "anti racist" in public debate. Yawn!!

*Hello eveyone, I'm back! [And still black!] LOL*
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 4 September 2010 12:31:23 PM
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JR - quite so, but that's the 'debates' on certain topics seem to be managed here. Ours is not to reason why.

I agree crabsy, and I've made the same point about "race" here countless times, but the racists don't want to know. My guess is they have too much invested in the social construct to be able to let it go, so they continue to babble on about "races" as if they actually exist in some biological way.

Welcome back, Rainier. You're correct too of course, but your post will sail way over the heads of our resident racists. Speaking of whom, I expect that our old mate Boazy will chime in before long to share his ignorance about the notion of 'whiteness'.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 1:04:26 PM
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J of M. Anti racism isn't anti-white. It is anti a very bad idea. Don't imply that all whites share your view.
Posted by ericc, Saturday, 4 September 2010 2:11:12 PM
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Hi Rainier, thanks for replying to my post.
I apologise for any misunderstanding, the question I posed was of course, not relevant to yourself, a Black person has every right to be anti Racist, my issue is with a particular mindset among my fellow Whites.
On the subject of White privilege would you agree that such a system only thrives because of its invisibility?
Look at the responses I receive from other White people on this site? If I say I’m White and Proud out in the open as it were I’m branded a Racist or worse.
You and I know that it’s real but Australians generally can’t see it, they’ve been fed a diet of egalitarianism, mateship and “A fair Go”, when in reality this country was founded on greed, genocide and corruption.
You may not realise it but we are on exactly the same wavelength, I have no loyalty to that system, nor to Australia in its present form, I also want to end White privilege by exposing it but you can’t do that without acknowledging Race.
We can’t drag these people out into the daylight and expose their crimes if we’re working with our hands tied, wouldn’t you agree?
Anti Racism by Whites against Whites is destructive, they want to destroy White people because they serve the vested interests that hide their Race from public view. Honestly the strongest response I’ve ever encountered from a non White person would be called by any reasonable person “constructive criticism”, White anti Racists want me banned from this site or worse because they serve White Privilege and the Status Quo.
I look forward to hearing your further thoughts.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 4 September 2010 3:21:31 PM
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